Police erode public faith article

**BlackSheepLogic** · 11th January 2015, 09:11

Originally Posted by swbarnett

In your post I read an implication that just because one driver can't drive you want every driver treated as if they can't. To think this way leads to all sorts of prejudice.

+1 The thinking that if we legislate to the lowest common denominator we will all be safe BS. Te focus needs to be on those few drivers who actually make the roads dangerous. Mandatory training for multiple offenders and at fault drivers would help. I would also also advocate for mandatory training for anyone involved in an accident before being allowed to drive/ride again.

**unstuck** · 11th January 2015, 09:14

Originally Posted by BlackSheepLogic

. I would also also advocate for mandatory training for anyone involved in an accident before being allowed to drive/ride again.

Victims or victimizers? Or just ALL parties involved?

**FJRider** · 11th January 2015, 10:35

Originally Posted by BlackSheepLogic

+1 The thinking that if we legislate to the lowest common denominator we will all be safe BS.

Raising the lowest common denominator should be better ... and safer.

Originally Posted by BlackSheepLogic

Te focus needs to be on those few drivers who actually make the roads dangerous.

Few .. ???

Which are the dangerous ones ... the slow ones .. the fast ones .. the drunk ones .. the stupid ones ... the texters .. the ones on the phone .. the ones that can't keep left ... ?? Be more specific ...

Originally Posted by BlackSheepLogic

Mandatory training for multiple offenders and at fault drivers would help. I would also also advocate for mandatory training for anyone involved in an accident before being allowed to drive/ride again.

What sort of training would be recommend ... ?? (to suit every accident case). And as already well proven ... knowing the road rules won't ensure they will be obeyed. Unless it suits ... or there's a cop watching.

Many even crash with no laws or legislation being broken by them.

**kiwi cowboy** · 11th January 2015, 10:58

Originally Posted by swbarnett

"Commuter" perhaps?

I think the word your looking for is unstuck? unhinged? unstuck???

**BlackSheepLogic** · 11th January 2015, 10:59

Originally Posted by unstuck

Victims or victimizers? Or just ALL parties involved?

Those in control.... Training for those hapless individuals who suffer unavoidable accidents should not be overlooked.

**kiwi cowboy** · 11th January 2015, 11:00

Originally Posted by unstuck

Oi, we have good coppers down here. Never heard of anyone getting a ticket for 1kmh over the limit down here. And if they did, they would go and let the coppers tires down in the night, not cry like a bunch of babies on the interwebs.

So that's where ya get too in the night times is it gov??????

**BlackSheepLogic** · 11th January 2015, 11:01

Originally Posted by FJRider

Which are the dangerous ones ... the slow ones .. the fast ones .. the drunk ones .. the stupid ones ... the texters .. the ones on the phone .. the ones that can't keep left ... ?? Be more specific ...

All of the above.

**husaberg** · 11th January 2015, 14:12

**unstuck** · 11th January 2015, 14:58

Originally Posted by kiwi cowboy

So that's where ya get too in the night times is it gov??????

Fuck you sheep shagger, you got no proof.

**mstriumph** · 11th January 2015, 21:54

Originally Posted by swbarnett

Yeah, I've noticed that people seem to be more courteous in general since we've gone semi-rural.

I used one school as an example of how it can and should be. You came back accusing me of saying "just because one brown dog doesn't chase chickens then all brown dogs should be trustworthy in the hen house". I took this to be an analogy to driving. In that case I'm saying that most drivers "don't chase chickens", not just one.

In your post I read an implication that just because one driver can't drive you want every driver treated as if they can't. To think this way leads to all sorts of prejudice. Hence the Muslim reference.

I take it that this isn't what you meant?

FFS - I give up.

**Berries** · 11th January 2015, 22:26

Success.

10mfc.

**swbarnett** · 12th January 2015, 21:17

Originally Posted by FJRider

Few .. ???

There are a lot of drivers that are dis-courteous but not actually dangerous.

**swbarnett** · 12th January 2015, 21:19

Originally Posted by mstriumph

FFS - I give up.

Yeah, wise move. I re-read your posts and realised that I completely took two parts of what you said separately instead of looking at one in the context of the other.

i.e. massive comprehension fuck-up brought on by trying to answer too many posts in a short space of time. Sorry.

**rastuscat** · 13th January 2015, 17:01

Sitting in a Dunkin Donuts in Saigon as I write this. Bless public wifi.

You guys should all come here and experience a real motorcycle culture. It'd open a few eyes.

It feels funny to sit outside the NZ community and read all the derision
. The speed issue sure has raised a lot of discussion. That on its own almost makes it worth it.

I sure hope that something comes of the furore.