Road rage fail: Aggressive NZ driver who hates cyclists

[bluninja]

Its perhaps no different to looking in the window of cars while passing which some motorcyclists appear to like doing.

It's very different to looking at car windows as you pass...that's the only way to see your side view reflection out of town.

[TheDemonLord]

Yeh, lets face it, this is one of those polarising instances where you just see who thinks cyclist should be allowed on the road, and who doesn't.

Any lane user who is slower than other traffic should rely on their own judgement to protect themselves and those who wish to pass. You move over when there is a safe place for others to pass, otherwise you own your lane properly to ensure those behind don't halfarse a passing job.

I do this when riding bikes, scoots, and pedlys, as well as when driving vans, tractors, and towing trailers. It is just good roadcraft.

I can't agree with this - not only is this not what is mandated in the legislation but it also forces the faster vehicles to be responsible for the safety of the slower vehicle (from the faster vehicle, a slow vehicle in the middle of the lane is a hazzard - not so bad when the slow vehicle is a tractor that wouldn't notice a rear end from mr stupid, but very bad news when its a cyclist)

Also there is anecdotal evidence that owning the lane tends to result in more aggressive and dangerous overtaking (mainly from people who similar to me think cyclists should keep left at all times and have no right to claim the lane) - of course it shouldn't, but it does appear to be par for the course.

I will state this though - I feel that the road rules do need a re-write to factor in the differences between cars, Motorbikes and Cyclists

[Swoop]

It's very different to looking at car windows as you pass...that's the only way to see your side view reflection out of town.

Miss Cassina likes windows.
Especially those which she is licking.

[nodrog:Me]

do you whingers rant like this fuckwit when you get stuck behind a car going around hills at less then 100km

I don't understand. How do you get stuck behind a car on a motorcycle?

[cynna]

I don't understand. How do you get stuck behind a car on a motorcycle?

exactly - just like its not that hard to pass cyclists in a car. you may get held up briefly but its not the end of the world

bet they guy in the video was so mad when he got home that he wouldnt drink the cup of tea his mum made him

[5150]

Die Motherfuckers !!!

[Blackbird]

I have road ridden for years and I feel the cyclists were a tad ignorant.
They would have known cars were behind them? and common courtesy would have been to fall into single file..
Tail end charlie would have or should have stated 'car back'
That is what we used to do and back in the day there was a regular Tuesday bunch, and a huge Sunday bunch ride from Royal Oak south...

The driver worked himself up for nothing....They would have been going at a good clip 30-32 kph and it wouldn't have been prudent to overtake anywhere until the road was clear.
Even then he fucked it up and was so wound up he didn't think of oncoming traffic...

I did notice the nice Crucifix on the mirror though....
Perhaps he should have waved that at them and exorcised his right to be on the road...
Bit of a tosser and loved his own voice for sure!

That's pretty much nailed it I was in the car going from Coromandel to Thames on the day of the last K2 cycle event and very few bunches of riders showed any courtesy to other road users. Consequently, there were big tail backs of cars and trucks but most drivers just chilled and were philosophical about it. Only saw one example of a dumb overtake. Most cyclists are also car drivers and you'd think they'd understand but consideration to other road users often seems to fly out the window when they're in a bunch. I still ride a pushbike on the road as an attempt to stay vaguely fit so hope I'm not totally one-eyed

[Waihou Thumper]

That's pretty much nailed it

Thanks for that....I wonder if anyone actually really reads posts other than the previous comment?

[oldrider]

No wonder it is sooooo easy to start wars between humans!

[carbonhed]

Die Motherfuckers !!!

Classic.

Cycling is good for your health... cough splutter choke.

[Trade_nancy]

If there had've been a farm tractor and trailer,or a milk tanker having driven back out onto the road, this idiot would have still been in the same frame of mind.

Correct-a-mundo....excellent point. The anger stems from the viewpoint he has that the cyclist has no right to priority over him...wheras a big truck or tractor would be viewed as an alien but superior being. He acted like an impatient wanker.

[PrincessBandit]

Die Motherfuckers !!!

You must spread...
That was some pretty toxic crop spray! Looked like he did a good job of getting most of them, but I noticed a couple of crafty ones eluded the immediate gas trail. I can see it all in his mind now "a-ha another one...brmmmm... got ya, ya little [fill in choice of description]"

[bogan]

I can't agree with this - not only is this not what is mandated in the legislation but it also forces the faster vehicles to be responsible for the safety of the slower vehicle (from the faster vehicle, a slow vehicle in the middle of the lane is a hazzard - not so bad when the slow vehicle is a tractor that wouldn't notice a rear end from mr stupid, but very bad news when its a cyclist)

Also there is anecdotal evidence that owning the lane tends to result in more aggressive and dangerous overtaking (mainly from people who similar to me think cyclists should keep left at all times and have no right to claim the lane) - of course it shouldn't, but it does appear to be par for the course.

I will state this though - I feel that the road rules do need a re-write to factor in the differences between cars, Motorbikes and Cyclists

Just what is mandated in legislation though?

Faster vehicles are responsible for avoiding rear ending slower vehicles, or anything else that might be present within their lane. How often is a rear end the fault of the guy in front?

I find the opposite, give a car enough room to overtake in the same lane and they'll have a go, don't give em that room and they will use the oncoming lane to do a proper overtake (complete with checking for oncoming traffic). In that vid, would you think it would have been safe for him to pass within the lane if they had been keeping to the left? it looked like a fairly narrow rural road to me is all.

[TheDemonLord]

Just what is mandated in legislation though?

Faster vehicles are responsible for avoiding rear ending slower vehicles, or anything else that might be present within their lane. How often is a rear end the fault of the guy in front?

I find the opposite, give a car enough room to overtake in the same lane and they'll have a go, don't give em that room and they will use the oncoming lane to do a proper overtake (complete with checking for oncoming traffic). In that vid, would you think it would have been safe for him to pass within the lane if they had been keeping to the left? it looked like a fairly narrow rural road to me is all.

Glad you asked the first question:

it is this:

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regul...DLM303041.html

I should have clarified my use of the term faster - I agree about the rear ending - but the above section of legislation does stipulate that if you are holding up traffic (cause you are a slow cunt) then its your responsibility to keep left and let non-slow cunts passed.

Admitedly I haven't watched the video - I was more responding to your claim about owning the lane (which I disagree with)

[caseye]

Bogan is right, even on a bike, you show the slightest hint of giving them more lane and they WILL overtake you in lane, and lately I've had them try it on the left while doing their level best to scare my wife off her bike. They soon learn not to do that shit if I see them.
In recent years and without fail, most bike riders in groups have become road hogging monsters and these days expect that cars will trundle along behind them while they continue to chat and ride with their mates wherever they are and for as long as it takes for the car driver to either get so pissed off they do something stupid or finally a safe passing opportunity occurs.
I don't mind waiting a bit, but when as I most often do, I see them bunch up, spread out and shout to each other about car movements in order to block possible overtakes I get annoyed and wonder why they should have unrestricted access to the roads which every other sort of users pays for, and they don't.
The BS that they also drive and pay ACC is just that. We motorists are allowed multiple vehicles but each and everyone must be registered and warranted.
Why are they exempt.
As motorcyclists we are fragile when it comes to other vehicles, they are incredibly vulnerable and these days they! seem to wear that on their sleeves with a contemptuous sneer on their dials and dare other road users to hit them.
But for cleaning up the blood and guts I could be tempted lately.