Your inexperience is showing.Originally Posted by TheDemonLord
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Your inexperience is showing.
Forum whore
No I don't . Just relax in the knowledge that the time is sweet fuck all on the end of your journey.
Kiwis generally have a problem with slower traffic and tend to get wound up when they are held up by traffic legitimately allowed on the road Beeping the horn to signal to those cyclists to go to single file would have been taken the wrong way and resulted in abuse from the cyclists. Did a few miles in Thailand a few years back and if you were a faster vehicle coming up behind slower traffic you just beeped the horn and they moved aside no problems at alll.
Everyone just needs to relax.
I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........
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"as near as practicable"
To me this suggests as near as is safe. As does the following passage about cyclists riding abreast.
"11.10Riding abreast
(1)A person must not ride a cycle or moped on a roadway so that it remains abreast and to the right of
(a)2 other vehicles that are cycles or mopeds; or
(b)1 other cycle or moped while that cycle or moped is overtaking and passing another vehicle, including a parked vehicle; or
(c)any other vehicle having 3 or more road wheels (including a motorcycle fitted with a sidecar).
(2)Subclause (1) does not apply if cyclists are participating in a race that is subject to a traffic management plan agreed by the road controlling authority."
Why do you disagree with it though? if the lane is not wide enough for two, why should the one in front still try to keep hard left?
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Similar system in Italy, everyone is beeping to let the person alongside know they are there.... Where as in NZ a toot is seen as a disapproval of your driving....
And in the UK you can flash your headlights to wake up the person in front in the fast lane to pull over, same thing its mostly seen as a hello rather than aggression.
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Yes. NZ defamation law is quite simple really. Even if someone is a real arsehole its actually illegal to go around publishing that the person concerned is an areshole and doesn't pay their bills or do decent workmanship etc. A lot of people think they are protected if just publishing the 'truth' but this is not so.
Any typical near miss is just that, to publicise and identify the 'offender' in dashcam incident often out of context and not showing the entire account of events, whilst not allowing the 'offender' the chance to explain themselves amounts to slander of that individuals reputation. Its why the number plates are blurred when they use that shit for reality tv shows....
As an example before the days of dashcam me and another driver got setup by company driver assessor. Now an isolated video of that incident would tell one story but the true accounts of the events leading up to it were just about enough to nearly get him fired when passed onto management.
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket - Eric Hoffer
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Most of these 'race' bikes have tyres fitted with not for highway use stamped on them. The manufacturer deems them unsuitable for use on public highway due to variety of reasons.
Then there are the missing legally required retro reflective items required by law.
Bit of an ace card for the victim who has been involved in an accident with cyclist when it gets to court...
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Yes some of the better clubs might practice that. However there are so many lance Armstrong wannabees and various social groups that there is no common standard of behaviour that motorists can expect from groups of cyclists.[I]I have road ridden for years and I feel the cyclists were a tad ignorant.
They would have known cars were behind them? and common courtesy would have been to fall into single file..
Tail end charlie would have or should have stated 'car back'
That is what we used to do and back in the day there was a regular Tuesday bunch, and a huge Sunday bunch ride from Royal Oak south...
Funnily enough it always seems to be male cyclists that are the problem, never had aggressive gestures or deliberate lane hogging from female riders....
The real problem is the lack of speed differential, often these cyclists are going quite fast for country roads. Its like a smaller scale version of the car doing 100 that wants to pass a truck doing 90, a lot of space is needed.
Before the days of gopro there were more chances to pass and do it safely, but now you cant cause some wanker might video you then put it on youtube and blow it out of proportion, so drivers wait for bigger gaps and eventually get frustrated.
More female cyclists, less problems
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Psyclepath
I've never seen that on a tyre in the 28 years since I built my first road bike although I suppose as anti-suing device in the US it may exist (caution this coffee may be hot!).
The law says a rear red reflector and amber on your pedals if you want. Most of us bunch riders have a couple of flashing red lights (I run one on the bike and one on my helmet) and speaking as someone who hits the road on pushies, motorbikes and cars - that list also goes in increasing proportion on fuckwits.
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
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It doesn't matter what extra devices you add. From a legal perspective your vehicle is deficient in the required standard....
"So your honor the deceased removed high visibility reflective devices from his bike to make it lighter and go faster...."
Some trucks have all sorts of extra LED lights on the front grills etc.... but if they have their headlights off or not working when required they are breaking the law.
The jury will gasp when they hear the main headlights were not switched on....
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket - Eric Hoffer
"channellling the Pleideans"
yeah but nah.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Hardcore Punk
This^^^^ Where the fuck is everyone going that they get so worked up about getting there a minute or 2 later. Sucks to be you fuckers.No wonder it is sooooo easy to start wars between humans!
For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.
"channellling the Pleideans"
Therein, Your Honur, I submit, lies the problem. What Mr R650R sees as (and I quote) as "deliberate lane hogging" could, in the better view, and the one which the prosecution urges your Honour to adopt, better be seen as pointless, aggressive, in fact in this instance actually dangerous driving, by someone with a very small penis indeed. Why, your Honour, as part of discovery in this case, the prosecution has had both the flaccid, and the erect state of the defendant's penis measured, with scientifically calibrated meauring devices, and the defendant's measurement is in the bottom four percent of the nationally recognised penis size average. Your Honour, many Asian men have a larger penis than the defendant. Your Honour, we submit that while no punishment that could be rendered by this Court could be more harsh than the punishment entered by the Almighty against the defendant, clearly for sins committed in a past life, we submit that it behooves the Court to render a harsh punishment to the defendant, because notwithstanding the Karmically issued and enforced punishment, the defendant's tiny endowment has meant that he has caused the death of this cyclist, and the only excuse he could muster was "Deliberate lane hogging". Your Honour, this Court must signal in the strongest possible terms that men (and I use the term in it's loosest defintition, as your Honour will appreciate) that men with tiny penises should not take their frustrations out upon legitemate road users, legitemately exercising their right to use the Queens highway for their lawful business, notwithstanding a gnats breadth of inconvenience caused to the defendant.
The prosecution rests your Honour.
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Forum whore
Why do motorbikes require rear view mirrors when they don't often have anyone driving behind yet pushbikes don't require them and it would serve them well to know if cars are waiting to pass.
If you honk to let them know your there or flash lights it would go down like a road rage attempt on their lives.
I have evolved as a KB member.Now nothing I say should be taken seriously.
eschew obsification...
perhaps it's time you went back on your meds?
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Grass wedges its way between the closest blocks of marble and it brings them down. This power of feeble life which can creep in anywhere is greater than that of the mighty behind their cannons....... - Honore de Balzac
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Perhaps it's time you got back on a cycle, fatty.perhaps it's time you went back on your meds?
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
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