Future of 125s in NZ?

[jellywrestler]

i think forget about putting 600 and 1000 bikes on tv and put buckets ,125 , 250 bike in its place , dads with there sons sitting at home will more likey get there kides and maybe them selfs into the sport , than looking at a overpriced 100+hp sport , face it , its not working whats happing at the moment

maybe you should go to a race meeting and see there are actually people there and on a per capita basis we punch well above our weight in nz.
we're never going back to the seventies as there's sunday shopping, people work more hours and so many more sports available to bot compete in and watch than there was in those days.

[mr bucketracer]

maybe you should go to a race meeting and see there are actually people there and on a per capita basis we punch well above our weight in nz.
we're never going back to the seventies as there's sunday shopping, people work more hours and so many more sports available to bot compete in and watch than there was in those days.

last meeting i went to was all about howmuch more weight we should put on the britton to stop it winning .sad people us new zealanders . i'm not ever going to push anything i do.it may look like i'm doing it for my own needs but realy i just want to build numbers

[jellywrestler]

last meeting i went to was all about howmuch more weight we should put on the britton to stop it winning .sad people us new zealanders . i'm not ever going to push anything i do.it may look like i'm doing it for my own needs but realy i just want to build numbers

so that's about 20 years ago, it was tough for other competitors racing against a custom built machine whilst others were on superbikes based on road machines, think the same sentiments were occuring in world superbikes with the weights of the twin cylinder thous versus the 750 fours being altered to make the racing more even.
no one likes to go to a race meeting of any type and see one machine dissapear into the distance do they.
Come along to another meeting, they still have the same batch of old hotdogs but other things have changed a bit, and there are disabled stands for people who are one eye'd and have other disabilities...

[chrisc]

There were 8 (including the IMD250) in GP125 over the weekend

[roogazza]

There were 8 (including the IMD250) in GP125 over the weekend

that'll be 7 then ?
I had a look at ctas , clubmans was biggest !!!
pro twins had about 16/17 ?
10 or 11 superbikes, and 600s similar .
Nice to be able to see what's going on down there.
(commentators sounded like they were on 'P')
But I think I'd still be jumping on a 250 prod or Pro twin is I was a youngster.

[quickbuck]

that'll be 7 then ? Yup
I had a look at ctas , clubmans was biggest !!! A shame really, but good for them to get out there...
pro twins had about 16/17 ? 17 until Duncan had to give up his bike to loan the motor out...
10 or 11 superbikes, and 600s similar . More entered, but it was a crash fest on Thursday... well all weekend really.
Nice to be able to see what's going on down there. Sure is, Thanks Grant and CTAS!
(commentators sounded like they were on 'P') May have been...
But I think I'd still be jumping on a 250 prod or Pro twin is I was a youngster. Hell yeah, they are fun. Dan Parry has my old 250.

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[Mental Trousers]

Watching Tim McArthur destroy the field and records in the Production 250's with pure corner speed shows the value of the 125GP class.

The class is needed for the development of future riders who are able to ride GP type machines rather than Production type bikes but at the moment there's only the IMD250 and that really only exists because Stevey B is a stubborn bastard.

[jellywrestler]

(commentators sounded like they were on 'P')

I certainally wasn't, however i was given a 330mm 4% beer by the meetings major sponsor and took it up to finish during the very last race of the day and had it confiscated.... it was back to water from the toilet from then on.

[Yow Ling]

that'll be 7 then ?
I had a look at ctas , clubmans was biggest !!!
pro twins had about 16/17 ?
10 or 11 superbikes, and 600s similar .
Nice to be able to see what's going on down there.
(commentators sounded like they were on 'P')
But I think I'd still be jumping on a 250 prod or Pro twin is I was a youngster.

Have another look , Clubmans had 17 in qualifying , development had 23

Clubmans is really just for guys wanting a ride without the whole Nationals thing, development is the feeder class where 125 and 250 racers come from, well the junior development class is the feeder, senior is mostly dads and buckets

[roogazza]

I certainally wasn't, however i was given a 330mm 4% beer by the meetings major sponsor and took it up to finish during the very last race of the day and had it confiscated.... it was back to water from the toilet from then on.

great to be able to see and hear whats going on down there tho.
You two give a wealth of info and history on the racing and seem to have your finger on the pulse.
Could hear you running out of breath trying to get it all out is all.
Maybe a beer is a good idea ? or a doobie ?

[jellywrestler]

Maybe a beer is a good idea ? or a doobie ?

it was one beer for christs sake, i't was a stiffling hot day and it was either tap water or Coke etc but got sick of that.
I drink like a fish but certainally wouldn't when commentating anything except the cold kiwi, too easy to get into party mode and forget the racing, the other thing is I swear like a old lady at housie when sh'es lost, but don't on the mic. that little gate in my brain would dissapear once i've downed a few brown powerades i'm sure.
Doing the weekend solo at levels, there maybe a few keen to help but in my opinion the national level commentating is a two person task minimum, with the class experts like seth as well. there is so much going on around you that needs a fair shot of your time which one can't easily manage when alone.
glad you like it and it keeps you following it all.

[chrisc]

Watching Tim McArthur destroy the field and records in the Production 250's with pure corner speed shows the value of the 125GP class.

Agreed

But I think I'd still be jumping on a 250 prod or Pro twin is I was a youngster.

How boring. So much learning to be done on a GP125 bike!

[jellywrestler]

Agreed



How boring. So much learning to be done on a GP125 bike!

yip but how accessable are they and how much do some people want to bother, another thing is sue to their size how many people can actually fit on them...

[quickbuck]

yip but how accessable are they and how much do some people want to bother, another thing is sue to their size how many people can actually fit on them...

Very true.... There is no way I would have been able to learn to race on a little bike if it wasn't for 250 Production.
Roman Rajek asked me if I wanted a go on his the other weekend at Manfeild.
I said I would love to, but there was very little chance I would be able to tuck into it... That said there used to be this really big dude called Nick who did pretty well on one a few years back now.

Accessibility, yup, a little difficult. Also I shudder to think what RDJases credit card looks like and the season is only 1/3 done track time wise, and 1/4 done traveling wise.
The engine blowing up in the Suzuki Series was a real kicker!
I mean, heck for the price of a barrel you can get a whole engine for a 250 Production bike....

I do admire the guys who are pouring their hearts and soles into the class though. The youngsters are clearly learning a lot of race craft on the 125's.

Watch out for Tayla Ralph on the IMD250 this weekend though! Second weekend on the bike, so all she has to learn is the track this time!

[Shaun Harris]

Steve, congrats on results dude