Annual road toll up 44

[swbarnett]

I drive it at slower speeds than most of you ride, especially around corners.

HUGE assumption mate.

I know I'm safe, I can see my driving, I know how often I'm at risk and manage those risks each time.

All good in principle but the only time you will be anything near to safe is when you realise you're not.

[swbarnett]

Basically, live in fear of death, do everything in life the boring way to try live as long as possible.

Definitely not. Just don't go through life saying "it'll never happen to me". No matter how much you practice avoiding accidents. No matter how skilled you are you can still come to grief. Otherwise racetracks wouldn't need gravel traps.

I'd rather live to be 30 and enjoy those years, than live to 90 having never tested my limitations.

To be honest I agree with this. It's just that you seem to expect the best of both - push right to the edge and beyond and still live to 90.

[pritch]

Right, so if we take that as gospel, it'd be safer for everyone to go 71 mph than 49 mph.

You had better read it again, that's not what it said.

[Edbear]

HUGE assumption mate.

All good in principle but the only time you will be anything near to safe is when you realise you're not.

Definitely not. Just don't go through life saying "it'll never happen to me". No matter how much you practice avoiding accidents. No matter how skilled you are you can still come to grief. Otherwise racetracks wouldn't need gravel traps.

To be honest I agree with this. It's just that you seem to expect the best of both - push right to the edge and beyond and still live to 90.

Very true. "No risk, no reward" is true, however recklessness and the "Devil may care" attitude benefits nobody.

[awa355]

Not a good weekend for motorcyclists. Three fatalities that I have read of, plus a 6yr operating an atv.

[WNJ]

And another today ,http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11392025

[FJRider]

... than live to 90 having never tested my limitations.

Your own limitations are the least of your worries. The limitations of those others near you (and have no control of) are the one's to worry about ...

[dangerous]

...the head of the NZ Water Safety Council's comments on the amount of drownings of late and the fact that they are all males could easily slide in here as relevant...he believes the cause is, being unaware of the dangers and an inflated sense of ones capabilities...sound familiar?...

ohh and today the SPCA reguarding dog resposabilitys said "people of some ethnicities had no idea of their responsibilities and "don't care".
fuck sake what the world comming to, my ethnic what ever is Kiwi... fuk im a bad rider, boater and now dog owner LMFAO

Ohh and There were more than 2000 claims to ACC as a result of accidents on all terrain vehicles at a cost of $4.4m last year... thats what my rego paid for, cos they not regoed and paying acc

[FJRider]

...the head of the NZ Water Safety Council's comments on the amount of drownings of late and the fact that they are all males could easily slide in here as relevant...he believes the cause is, being unaware of the dangers and an inflated sense of ones capabilities...sound familiar?...

The old .. "It won't happen to me ... I'm a good rider(swimmer)" ideology you mean ... ????

[Madness]

ohh and today the SPCA reguarding dog resposabilitys said "people of some ethnicities had no idea of their responsibilities and "don't care".
fuck sake what the world comming to, my ethnic what ever is Kiwi... fuk im a bad rider, boater and now dog owner LMFAO

I don't think he was pointing the finger at gingers.

[nodrog:Me]

ohh and today the SPCA reguarding dog resposabilitys said "people of some ethnicities had no idea of their responsibilities and "don't care".
fuck sake what the world comming to, my ethnic what ever is Kiwi... fuk im a bad rider, boater and now dog owner LMFAO

.....

they were talking about Bantu immigrants in south Auckland.

[ellipsis]

they were talking about Bantu immigrants in south Auckland.

...ginga Bantus?...fuck that...

[nodrog:Me]

......fuck that...

sick cunt.

[haydes55]

Definitely not. Just don't go through life saying "it'll never happen to me". No matter how much you practice avoiding accidents. No matter how skilled you are you can still come to grief. Otherwise racetracks wouldn't need gravel traps.


To be honest I agree with this. It's just that you seem to expect the best of both - push right to the edge and beyond and still live to 90.

I'd agree with you, if I were going to anywhere near 100% of my ability, or my vehicles grip. My vans tires are the size of biscuits, they overheat in fuck all time and start squealing while the paperwork on my passenger seat barely moves (the plastic clipboard always goes flying, so i chuck my towel over it). I've come across trucks cutting into my lane around blind corners, with tires squealing and still had ample time and reserves of grip to turn sharper, add brakes and avoid them.

Every time I've been in an emergency situation, I've always had reserves available. Because I know the limits of the van, I know how much sharper I can turn, or how hard I can brake etc. I know what options I have available to avoid the collisions that Cassina would say are unavoidable.

[haydes55]

HUGE assumption mate.


All good in principle but the only time you will be anything near to safe is when you realise you're not.

The HUGE assumption you made was the quality of my work van.... It can't go fast.

I know the risks. I know the dangers of being on the road. The only thing that last sentence proves, is how dangerous speed limits are "I'm safe, I don't speed" -Dead drivers. I'm safe, I trust no road is clear beyond what I can see, I know how to control my vehicle if I am in a dangerous situation and lose grip. I'm safe because I consciously and constantly think "what if [Worst case scenario] was around the corner".

Basically I drive like how I ride "no one has seen me, drivers will fail to indicateindicate wrong and muppets will actually drive straight at me".

Are you claiming you realise you aren't safe.... Therefore saying you're a safer driver/rider than me because you know it's dangerous? Therefore you aren't as safe as you realise... (that's some Matrix logic there )