Your sovereign rights being flushed down the toilet by our politicians

[Katman]

I'll give you some tips for next time. It was you initial challenge that went wrong, as it still hinged on your evidence, what you needed to find was a claim I made which was not related to the debunking of another's claim; a standalone one. You would have stood a much better chance at showing me not backing myself that way.

You have repeatedly shown you are not interested in debating evidence.

You simply attempt to wear down your opponent by talking in circles while not actually saying anything.

Much like Ed.

[flyingcrocodile46]

At least he doesn't just make shit up.

Ah! The taste tester arrives.

[Scuba_Steve]

How was it shown to be total shit?

Did somebody watch a youtube about the topic? Or was it peer reviewed (the process continues after publication you know)

Someone I guess "did the maths" few years (think it was 4) after it was published & accepted

And what's the problem with YouTube???

[flyingcrocodile46]

Someone I guess "did the maths" few years (think it was 4) after it was published & accepted

And what's the problem with YouTube???

Too much negative light and not enough kittens

[bogan]

Disingenuous goal post constructs = full of shit. No matter how fast you backpedal. Fucking strawman

Ahh, so instead of addressing the content you attack the poster. Well done.

That you have to ask means I get to leave you to it.

That I have to ask means I want to know why you think it is scary. I expect you think it such because it means published info that many rely on can be wrong, yet that has always and will always be the case. Personally I find it comforting that the institution is open to addressing these errors at the earliest opportunity.

You have repeatedly shown you are not interested in debating evidence.

You simply attempt to wear down your opponent by talking in circles while not actually saying anything.

Much like Ed.

I've repeatedly asked for evidence, with which to have a debate.

Someone I guess "did the maths" few years (think it was 4) after it was published & accepted

And what's the problem with YouTube???

And how did they do the maths?

Youtube is all too commonly used as a tool to indoctrinate the ignorant; there is a narrative designed to guide one's mind along a linear path to a predetermined conclusion. That is why some poster's who care more about this predetermined conclusion than coming to the right one have a propensity to post youtube clips. Critical errors in logic or lack of expertise can all too easily be obfusticated from the viewer. That is why I expect it will not have been a youtube that overturned a scientific article.

[Katman]

Youtube is all too commonly used as a tool to indoctrinate the ignorant; there is a narrative designed to guide one's mind along a linear path to a predetermined conclusion. That is why some poster's who care more about this predetermined conclusion than coming to the right one have a propensity to post youtube clips. Critical errors in logic or lack of expertise can all too easily be obfusticated from the viewer. That is why I expect it will not have been a youtube that overturned a scientific article.

So you're saying that if you watch a Youtube video you will become indoctrinated?

Are you incapable of watching something with an open mind?

[flyingcrocodile46]

So you're saying that if you watch a Youtube video you will become indoctrinated?

Are you incapable of watching something with an open mind?

Yes, he is. The MSM used as a tool to indoctrinate the ignorant; with a narrative designed to guide simple minds along a linear path to a predetermined conclusion. His glass is full.



Of shit.


He sees himself as an intellectual gatekeeper. Of course, he's only half right.

[bogan]

So you're saying that if you watch a Youtube video you will become indoctrinated?

Are you incapable of watching something with an open mind?

No, I'm saying that is the idea behind them. I'll just see thorugh that and gain nothing but contempt for the viewpoint they put forward; hence it is better for your case if I do not watch them.

Having an open mind has little to do with whether you can be indoctrinated or not.

Tell me, why do you favor youtubes over peer reviewed stuff?

[Katman]

No, I'm saying that is the idea behind them. I'll just see thorugh that and gain nothing but contempt for the viewpoint they put forward; hence it is better for your case if I do not watch them.

So in order to bolster your own viewpoint you simply refuse to view anyone else's.

You and Ed must be twins.

[flyingcrocodile46]

No, I'm saying that is the idea behind them. I'll just see thorugh that and gain nothing but contempt for the viewpoint they put forward; hence it is better for your case if I do not watch them.

Further proof (admission) of cognitive bias leading to predetermined bias which forces the mind to attempt close tighter like an asshole under load. When faced with any preliminary genuine logic based discourse, contradictory unsupportable twaddle passes through the orifice and is presented as if it were a meaningful rebuke.

Which all goes to prove that you can't win an 'argument' (because idiots don't debate) with an idiot.

[yokel]

Yes, he is. The MSM used as a tool to indoctrinate the ignorant; with a narrative designed to guide simple minds along a linear path to a predetermined conclusion. His glass is full.



Of shit.


He sees himself as an intellectual gatekeeper. Of course, he's only half right.

The media like TV is mind control, they want everyone to think the same thing at the same time.
popular opinion is not truth.

[Scuba_Steve]

And how did they do the maths?

Youtube is all too commonly used as a tool to indoctrinate the ignorant; there is a narrative designed to guide one's mind along a linear path to a predetermined conclusion. That is why some poster's who care more about this predetermined conclusion than coming to the right one have a propensity to post youtube clips. Critical errors in logic or lack of expertise can all too easily be obfusticated from the viewer. That is why I expect it will not have been a youtube that overturned a scientific article.

Don't know, like I said it was more his interest than mine...

No, the Govt is quite far behind in the YouTube usage, the education system has been used far far longer to "indoctrinate the ignorant" than YouTube
YouTube at-least has both sides so the less ignorant or the ones wishing to become less ignorant can see both sides & decide for themselves... Given your dislike for YouTube I can only assume you wish to only hear the "official propaganda" & thus have disdain for anything to the contrary regardless of how factual it maybe... Which is weird given you claim YouTube to do exactly what you appear to be, the indoctrinated ignorant

[bogan]

So in order to bolster your own viewpoint you simply refuse to view anyone else's.

You and Ed must be twins.

I view others as the viepoints they are, you attempt to portray them as evidence, which they are not.

Further proof (admission) of cognitive bias leading to predetermined bias which forces the mind to attempt close tighter like an asshole under load. When faced with any preliminary genuine logic based discourse, contradictory unsupportable twaddle passes through the orifice and is presented as if it were a meaningful rebuke.

Which all goes to prove that you can't win an 'argument' (because idiots don't debate) with an idiot.

Ah, now you're trying fancy words insults. Losing the debate with me really has gotten under your skin hasn't it

Don't know, like I said it was more his interest than mine...

No, the Govt is quite far behind in the YouTube usage, the education system has been used far far longer to "indoctrinate the ignorant" than YouTube
YouTube at-least has both sides so the less ignorant or the ones wishing to become less ignorant can see both sides & decide for themselves... Given your dislike for YouTube I can only assume you wish to only hear the "official propaganda" & thus have disdain for anything to the contrary regardless of how factual it maybe... Which is weird given you claim YouTube to do exactly what you appear to be, the indoctrinated ignorant

Ahh, the old education is just indoctrination argument. Brought to you by fruits of such 'indoctrination' like the internet.
You can assume wrong. Official as opposed to conspiracy theorist viewpoints do not enter into my decision making process at all. The evidence does; and its lack here is almost palpable.

[unstuck]

And this dear readers, is why society is what it is among the masses. Everybody wants their view point and opinion to be the right one, and those that disagree with it are scorned and abused. What a joke, the lot of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Just another thread full of angry dick waving.

[flyingcrocodile46]

And this dear readers, is why society is what it is among the masses. Everybody wants their view point and opinion to be the right one, and those that disagree with it are scorned and abused. What a joke, the lot of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Just another thread full of angry dick waving.

he said as he wiped the drool off his chin