Universe may have had no beginning

[mashman]

Annette King turned up and tried to sit in the wrong seat.
There's a political joke in there somewhere...

I believe you.

[Oscar]

You're Tony Abbott?????

Welcome to New Zealand

Shush - I'm hiding out incognito...

[Ulsterkiwi]

Oh quite easily really .. science is the only discipline that still acts as if they know the "truth" ... (even if they change their minds every 20 years or so ...)

But Philosophy completely undermines that ...

veritas? que veritas?

[avgas]

[Woodman]

Perhaps. But you're also assuming that time is both constant and linear.

You've been dead longer than you've been alive. Or have you?

The human brain is not capable of comprehending nothing.

[Akzle]

You cannot have nothing.

matter of opinion.

i don't believe there ever was. but if you had no concept of "nothing" you wouldn't recognise "something" or "anything"

like if there was no dark, you wouldn't recognise the light...

Perhaps. But you're also assuming that time is both constant and linear.

i missed that inference...

You've been dead longer than you've been alive. Or have you?

we never really die

The human brain is not capable of comprehending nothing.

au contraire, it's all some human brains comprehend.

[Murray]

like if there was no dark, you wouldn't recognise the light...

Is that like if you are born blind do you think in colour????

[mashman]

Is that like if you are born blind do you think in colour????

Only if you can explain what the colour Red is.

[mossy1200]

Only certainty in science is if everyone agrees nobody gets paid.

[Winston001]

...I don't know who this is attributable to...maybe Mr Hawking himself, and maybe worded differently too...'for a quantum mechanic to say they understand the physics of QM's means they know very little of what they study'...

Richard Feynman.

[Winston001]

At the end of the day the question of how the universe started is a real mindfuck and nobody knows for sure.

The thing that gets me is, what was there before the universe started, and what was there before that etc.



You cannot have nothing.

Check out Vacuum Energy. Particles pop in and out of existence from nothing. Its a bit weird.

One theory for the Big Bang is that it came into being as a quantum fluctuation.

[mashman]

Check out Vacuum Energy. Particles pop in and out of existence from nothing. Its a bit weird.

One theory for the Big Bang is that it came into being as a quantum fluctuation.

That or they pop into existence for selfie purposes.

[blue rider]

Oh noes... that might upset a few entrenched mindsets

you are sure that it was not just a very flavoursome fart from the bearded sky fairy that set it all of?

[mashman]

you are sure that it was not just a very flavoursome fart from the bearded sky fairy that set it all of?

lol... whilst there's a lot of shit down here that might point to a follow through from such an act, I don't know whether it was the bearded dude or just the foul stench of decaying human souls. Let's go with the bearded dude, it's a much cooler story.

[Woodman]

lol... whilst there's a lot of shit down here that might point to a follow through from such an act, I don't know whether it was the bearded dude or just the foul stench of decaying human souls. Let's go with the bearded dude, it's a much cooler story.

Well the bearded dude is as close as you can get to nothing.