Selling a bike privately?

[f2dz]

Just call your insurance - odds are they will cover you for test rides if you take due care. Then you don't have to think about it any more, just sight ID and let them at it.

I wouldn't buy a bike without riding it, nor would I turn up to view with thousands in cash sitting in my pocket. So those who say "cash in hand or no test ride" will never get a sale from me.

My insurance company usually says that test rides are covered but they also suggest taking copies of their license, holding onto their car/bike keys while they're gone, etc.

When selling my last bike I just followed them on my new bike to make sure they didn't do a runner or bin it. Not all will have that luxury though.

When test riding a bike away from home I gave the guy my car keys for him to follow me around after I showed him my bank balance on my phone.

So there's a couple things you can do to get around this - and I agree with the above, ain't no way I'm bringing wads of cash to a bloody test ride.

[JimO]

i would say a lot of bikes sold on TM wouldnt have been test ridden

[rustyrobot]

I wouldn't buy a bike without riding it, nor would I turn up to view with thousands in cash sitting in my pocket. So those who say "cash in hand or no test ride" will never get a sale from me.

Absolutely would not turn up with cash - I agree this is a odd thing to say, although I have in the past offered to show my bank balance -this could probably be faked though.

Don't want to end up like this guy:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-phoney-seller

I've always been allowed test rides and allowed test rides when buying/selling bikes - but I have to admit to being a little nervous when they disappear round the corner on your bike, even if you do have their car keys.

I don't see any reason why you couldn't write up a legal agreement similar to the one used by bike shops when you are taking test rides. Take a photo of their ID and make sure they sign it. Yes, it would be a hassle to have to follow up on it, but it could give some peace of mind in the case of a crash. Last time I took a test ride it was a crazy high excess too ($3500 I think).

[The End]

Apart from asking for cash in hand before a test ride, do what the dealers do:

Print out a document/contract which says the test rider will pay for any and all issues (read: damage) arising from the test ride.

Have them sign it as per a dealership would while also taking a copy of their drivers license.

Not sure if it is legally binding? Dealerships seem to get away with it.

[Akzle]

A lot of ads state "no test rides without proof of funds / licence / insurance" etc

Do people generally follow the bike etc when out on a test ride ? Hold back a credit card etc ?

and the card and or license could be stolen.

as dawg: get some intuition.
as theend: do up a not-quite-sale-and-purchase-agreement.

shit, i've bought and sold vehicles on less, driven away without paying anything up front.
comes down to being a good cunt.

Do they have a valid license?

I dont care about this.

If they are keen to leave a vehicle as security make sure they own it clear. Else repo men will turn up, or possibly the police if the rider does not return.
People are usually good security but they also cannot be detained by you and can wander off.
Credit cards are not security. Nor are phones.
Always sight the drivers license and check it is real and it matches. If possible get a photocopy. If not possible note down numbers and details.
Cash is king.

yup

Red flags. How many you accept is up to you:
Lies.
Talking up their riding ability.
Talking about crashes.
Talking about wheelies etc.
Skater shoes and shorts on a test ride? Really?

again, makes fuckall difference to me. if you haven't crashed, you're probably a bitch, if you can't wheelie, same. and i'll ride in jandals or bare feet even, if i feel like it.

Wanting to borrow your gear.

like... your bike?
if they don't have their own helmet the gtfo.

Appearance does not reflect the kind of financial freedom needed to buy what you are selling.
...If it feels wrong to probably is.

this.

Apart from asking for cash in hand before a test ride, do what the dealers do:

Print out a document/contract which says the test rider will pay for any and all issues (read: damage) arising from the test ride.

Have them sign it as per a dealership would while also taking a copy of their drivers license.

Not sure if it is legally binding? Dealerships seem to get away with it.

yurp.

[NZM0NK3Y]

Hi All
Thanks for the responses - pretty much what I figured. Good idea to draft up a document like dealers do and get them to sign before any test ride

OK - who wants to make me an offer for the bike ? Change in circumstance means it probably needs to go. Reluctant sale - only used for fine weather commuting and occasional weekend fun rides

Cheers

[Big Dog]

Just call your insurance - odds are they will cover you for test rides if you take due care. Then you don't have to think about it any more, just sight ID and let them at it.

I wouldn't buy a bike without riding it, nor would I turn up to view with thousands in cash sitting in my pocket. So those who say "cash in hand or no test ride" will never get a sale from me.

Most insurance will cover if you have called them and asked the question and followed any advice from them.
I have however hear from a few sources that there is no payout or a limited payout if you have not pre arranged.
When I was selling a bike, admittedly last century and state was my insurer that's a premium change of $50 per year. With Kiwibike now and had no hassle. Just reminded to get license info and registration of the vehicle they arrived in.


My earlier no insurance comment was more you are not insured if not organised. Cos my post was already very wordy.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

Hi All
Thanks for the responses - pretty much what I figured. Good idea to draft up a document like dealers do and get them to sign before any test ride

OK - who wants to make me an offer for the bike ? Change in circumstance means it probably needs to go. Reluctant sale - only used for fine weather commuting and occasional weekend fun rides

Cheers

Sight unseen, not even pics, with no test ride?
$5 and a bag o chips?
Throw in a can I coke if you can sort it tonight.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Moi]

Sight unseen, not even pics, with no test ride?
$5 and a bag o chips?
Throw in a can I coke if you can sort it tonight.

I'll up the bid to two cans of diet coke...

and a cup of coffee when you deliver it...

[Big Dog]

I'll up the bid to two cans of diet coke...

and a cup of coffee when you deliver it...

Top up the tank first and that would make it $20, a bag of burger rings and a can of coke... I reckon I probably make a better cup of coffee too!

[Moi]

Top up the tank first and that would make it $20, a bag of burger rings and a can of coke... I reckon I probably make a better cup of coffee too!

Full tank at $25, big bag of Kettle chips - your choice of flavour - three cans of 'full strength' coke and an espresso...

[Akzle]

Full tank at $25, big bag of Kettle chips - your choice of flavour - three cans of 'full strength' coke and an espresso...

i'll be around shortly.

what was the original question?

[Big Dog]

i'll be around shortly.

what was the original question?

Stand down Akzle.
He means coca cola not Bolivian marching powder.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[mossy1200]

2013 ktm390 will attract learner riders.
Put it on trade me and sell it with no test rides. Allow viewing only.

[Moi]

Stand down Akzle.
He means coca cola not Bolivian marching powder.

It could be a bottle or two of the very early stuff...