Cancer and the drug companies

**Edbear** · 31st March 2015, 20:33

Originally Posted by Laava

You must be aware of the Anton Kuraia case?

Put the link up.

**Katman** · 31st March 2015, 20:37

Originally Posted by Edbear

All the cases I have researched have one thing in common. They are bollox!

**Edbear** · 31st March 2015, 20:53

Originally Posted by Katman

By someone noted for NOT doing anything resembling research, or posting anything actually on topic.

**bogan** · 31st March 2015, 20:54

Originally Posted by Edbear

I have been looking up a few cases of claims about a variety of cures for cancer that follow a typical theme. The cancer, whichever is the topic, was cured by some alternative means - often a vegetable extract, with corroborating testimony by a doctor saying that after a period of weeks there was nothing left of the Cancer. At times there are several case studies of a number of patients who were cured of different types of cancers by the same therapy.

All the cases I have researched have one thing in common. They are bollox! Some have merit in the substance used that has a possibility of being of some benefit but to date the results of trials have been inconclusive with failure to actually make a difference in real cases.

If you want to get famous, work on Mitochondria. They are the key to reducing and inhibiting cancer cells. They are the human body's natural defence mechanism.

Your conclusions are still fucking unscientific. If some have merit then they are not bollox; like vit c.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1405876/

**Katman** · 31st March 2015, 20:55

Originally Posted by Edbear

By someone noted for NOT doing anything resembling research, or posting anything actually on topic.

Are you trying for some sort of record in stupidity?

**Laava** · 31st March 2015, 21:02

Originally Posted by Edbear

Put the link up.

He is a local cop here in Whangarei who was sent home to die with leukaemia. He was given ten days. He went on the intravenous vitamin C and now has an almost completely clear result.
This has been a very well broadcast story very recently here, as in last month and this month.
I can't believe you would have posted this thread without even being aware of this story. I am disappoint.

**Edbear** · 31st March 2015, 21:03

Originally Posted by Katman

Are you trying for some sort of record in stupidity?

Nah, you're tying with a couple of others here for that one with each of you determined to win.

The facts of each case were that the claims of being cured were false with no corroborating evidence anywhere to be found.

The possible benefits were on the basis of benefit of the doubt pending any proven efficacy. Some extracts of some plants are being investigated based on cellular structures.

The actual scale of research being undertaken on a huge variety of alternatives lends the lie to those who claim the drug companies are not interested.

**Edbear** · 31st March 2015, 21:08

Originally Posted by Laava

He is a local cop here in Whangarei who was sent home to die with leukaemia. He was given ten days. He went on the intravenous vitamin C and now has an almost completely clear result.
This has been a very well broadcast story very recently here, as in last month and this month.
I can't believe you would have posted this thread without even being aware of this story. I am disappoint.

I didn't remember his name. I will see what the latest is on his case. Without prejudging him it is well attested that this type of example has not proven to have long term success. The number of people using the therapy is large and results to date are sketchy.

If you have anything recent, do post it.

**Laava** · 31st March 2015, 21:09

Originally Posted by Edbear

I didn't remember his name. I will see what the latest is on his case. Without prejudging him it is well attested that this type of example has not proven to have long term success. The number of people using the therapy is large and results to date are sketchy.

If you have anything recent, do post it.

It is not my problem that you have done no research, esp of local people in NZ.
Again, I am disappoint.

**Katman** · 31st March 2015, 21:10

Originally Posted by Edbear

If you have anything recent, do post it.

Are your research skills not up to it?

**nzspokes** · 31st March 2015, 21:10

Originally Posted by Laava

He is a local cop here in Whangarei who was sent home to die with leukaemia. He was given ten days. He went on the intravenous vitamin C and now has an almost completely clear result.
This has been a very well broadcast story very recently here, as in last month and this month.
I can't believe you would have posted this thread without even being aware of this story. I am disappoint.

Is he still alive?

**bogan** · 31st March 2015, 21:11

Originally Posted by Edbear

The actual scale of research being undertaken on a huge variety of alternatives lends the lie to those who claim the drug companies are not interested.

And also to the lie that they do not work...

As per the link (to actual research, still waiting on yours btw) I just posted.