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    When approaching a roundabout, make sure you don't slow down in preparation to stop, as the car at the next roundabout entry may take this as an invitation to go.

    Also you can be 20 plus metres out from entering and the car on your left that is stationary has to give way to you.

    Roundabouts in the UK work because there is a shared feeling of road courtesy that does not exist here, I used to ride around London no issues, can say I like riding much around

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    Definition

    Indicator = Advertise the lane you now have ownership of after claiming it.
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    Indicating?
    The most common problem is people who leave their indicator on, whilst still in their garage! They then believe they have performed ALL required indimicating for their entire journey and no longer require the use of that device in their vehicle.

    Occasionally you will see someone who forgot to get all the indimicating done at home, and therefore need to do it while driving along a straight piece of road where no chances of making a turn are possible.
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    Indicating is optional in this country, that's why most drivers have a crystal ball don't they?

    I find it especially helpful when someone drives with their rear fog light on when there is no need for it...it makes my internal monologue more colourful

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    Was on a multi laned highway 100 k and was being passed by another cager, as he passed he turned hard right into the concrete median barrier, and no he didnt indicate.(no slowing down or anything) There obviously no reason to, no sane person would have turned right then. Poor bugger......

    I love the indications drivers get from their LOVED ONES when they make an obvious mistake. make WTF and OMG look like a wet bus ticket.....

    The only thing now is that I have to remember to turn off the indicators and double check them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Roundabouts in the UK work because there is a shared feeling of road courtesy that does not exist here.
    That, and the term mirror, signal, manoeuvre. Here it is mirror, signal, signal, signal, mirror, signal, signal, mirror, oh look here comes a gap, manoeuvre. Just an indication (pardon the pun) of the piss poor thought processes behind your average NZ driving skills. If you are parked up at the side of a 100km/h road I am not going to slow down and give you a gap to pull into so stop fucking indicating and just wait for a safe gap.

    Twats.

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    Roundabouts: Turning right from the left lane on 2 lane roundabouts... yeup Other one I saw once, left indicator, right indicator, hazards, straight through the roundabout... hazards were about right!

    Today I hit a passing lane in the Hiace on SH5 aiming to pass two vehicles. After the passing lane was fully established, and I'm approaching the rear of the car (I'm in right lane, car in left), it finally wakes up that there is a passing lane, indicates (I should probably compliment them on this), then suddenly realised there was a great big van there and perhaps it wasn't a good idea. Waits a bit longer, then decides to switch off the indicator.

    Meanwhile, I'd been planning the overtake (hills suck in a Hiace unless you want to drive foot flat) since the 400m warning, creating a gap, then building momentum and closing right before the lane, before sweeping past. Fortunately I didn't have to brake, but backing off lost some momentum making the overtake longer, but finally got it done... sheesh. Just imagine how the trucks feel...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    Definition

    Indicator = Advertise the lane you now have ownership of after claiming it.
    Geez !! I thought they was for indicating how wide ya bike iz,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    That, and the term mirror, signal, manoeuvre. Here it is mirror, signal, signal, signal, mirror, signal, signal, mirror, oh look here comes a gap, manoeuvre. Just an indication (pardon the pun) of the piss poor thought processes behind your average NZ driving skills. If you are parked up at the side of a 100km/h road I am not going to slow down and give you a gap to pull into so stop fucking indicating and just wait for a safe gap.

    Twats.
    Your example is extreme (stopped vehicle trying to enter 100 km/h road) but I do think there is a tendency for Kiwi drivers to think "fuck you" to anyone trying to change lanes.

    We all need to change lanes now and then *1 and should help each other do it. Instead, so many drivers on the motorway will close up on someone indicating to change. They figure, "let them change lanes behind me".

    So that, I think, at least partially, leads to the behaviour of not indicating and instead waiting for a gap to flick into. (Which is why I'm extra careful near gaps in traffic, when on the bike and splitting).



    (*1 Except the buggers who flick flick flick all the way in to town going into whatever lane is moving fastest at that moment. They can burn in hell.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    Indicating is optional in this country, that's why most drivers have a crystal ball don't they?

    I find it especially helpful when someone drives with their rear fog light on when there is no need for it...it makes my internal monologue more colourful

    Ahhh now that one really gets me going, nothing like a bit of arc eye first thing in the morning because some twat is driving with his/her fog lights on, even better when its raining

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    Indicating when using a roundabout isn't rocket science... it's about giving others information about what you wish to do... BUT this is NZ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    Once upon a time, I used to believe that if you wanted to change lanes, you signalled ahead of time and then proceeded to change lanes. The object of the exercise being to use the indicators to let other road users know that you intend to change lanes.

    Seems I was wrong.

    These days, according to my observations over many miles on motorways, the correct way to do this is as follows:

    Start to change lanes. When are straddling the lane line, turn on the indicator. Usually for one or two blinks only. This way, following road users will see your lane change and then prepare to deal with an indicator coming on. Which is way more dangerous than a lane change, eh!


    It's the Kiwi way - right up there with all their other totally inept driving techniques...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Roundabouts in the UK work because there is a shared feeling of road courtesy that does not exist here
    By and large. What fucks me off most is (and the Royal Oak roundabout is the poster child for this) the way that most drivers seem to think the the idea of a roundabout is to try to prevent the next person round from entering, or failing that to get close enough to allow you to use your horn and converse via sign language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    Indicating is optional in this country, that's why most drivers have a crystal ball don't they?

    I find it especially helpful when someone drives with their rear fog light on when there is no need for it...it makes my internal monologue more colourful
    And while discussing the lack of need to have the glaring rear fog-light on with a motorist I have found out quite a few (a) didn't realise their car even had fog-lights and/or (b) had no idea how to turn them off.

    One woman insisted she needed to pull out the light-switch knob on her Jag "Or the headlights no go".
    She took some convincing that they WOULD go simply by turning the switch knob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    Indicating is optional in this country, that's why most drivers have a crystal ball don't they?

    I find it especially helpful when someone drives with their rear fog light on when there is no need for it...it makes my internal monologue more colourful
    Most European cars have one rear fog light which comes on with the front ones. People think the front fog lamps are auxiliary driving lights but have no idea what they are really for so drive with them on because they look cool.
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