Yet another ATGATT thread

**Moi** · 19th April 2015, 15:29

Oh dear... you'll get blamed and lambasted whether you do something or do nothing... no matter what you do or don't do, it's wrong.

For what it's worth - and probably according to many here, not much more than a penny-farthing - I think you did the correct thing.

True the rider and pillion were both wearing helmets, and that is all that is required by law, however being stopped and told politely [cause I'm sure you were polite but firm - just like our mothers could be] that wearing more appropriate gear would be a good thing to do... cause if some dumb-witted motorist hit you as you are presently dressed you and your pillion would be in a bad way. Perhaps a reference to the ad on TV for smoke alarms - if something happened to your daughter how would you feel?

Cheers and thanks for caring.

[Now for the all the vitriol that will descend upon me...]

**Laava** · 19th April 2015, 15:35

Why does the rabbit not eat the pikelet? Is it gluten free and made with rice milk?

**bogan** · 19th April 2015, 15:35

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Hmmmm, seems I've stirred up a hornets nest.

I'm tempted to delete the thread, as I'm clearly in the wrong.

Before I do that, Google "degloving injuries" for me. Is that really a personal choice?

And given that we all bang on about how everything is someone elses fault, how about we start to protect ourselves against those nutbars trying to harm us?

If that is your thinking, go google 'motorcycle injuries' and fuck right off.

cunt...

donuts...

**swbarnett** · 19th April 2015, 15:42

Originally Posted by Moi

being stopped and told politely that wearing more appropriate gear would be a good thing to do...

OK. Let's say for argument's sake that I make the conscious decision to leave the leather jacket, boots, gloves etc. at home and ride from Auckland to Wellington wearing just a helmet (and enough to not run foul of the public nudity laws). Having taken this decision I am fully aware that, should I crash, I'll be in a world of hurt. Therefore I ride in a manner that makes this extremely unlikely (which I always do anyway). The remaining risk is something that I am well aware of and prepared to take. Now, this trip can easily be done in one day. Except for the case where every cop that sees me pulls me over to give me a "polite" lecture. How is this not harassment?

**FJRider** · 19th April 2015, 16:01

Originally Posted by rastuscat

... And just to lighten up the subject, here's a picture of a rabbit with a pikelet on it's head.

It's all a matter of perspective ...

It could be a pikelet with a rabbit on it's arse ...

**Madness** · 19th April 2015, 16:10

Are we certain it's not a guinea pig?

**cheshirecat** · 19th April 2015, 16:43

Here's how to do it

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Yup, gotta get this one off my chest.

I felt like beating him with a frozen fish.

Rant concludes.

And just to lighten up the subject, here's a picture of a rabbit with a pikelet on it's head.

Attachment 310891

https://youtu.be/lefP0_ZM-Lw

**Kickaha** · 19th April 2015, 16:55

Originally Posted by Berries

I probably wouldn't use the same words but agree entirely.

I'd buy him a donut afterwards

Originally Posted by jim.cox

And you wonder why no one likes you coppers..

I like him, he's a good cunt, not sure about that Scumdog though

**Ocean1** · 19th April 2015, 17:13

Originally Posted by sugilite

It is all about perception. I suspect that rastus has witnessed many a bad injury that could of been avoided by wearing the right gear. See enough of that sort of thing, why not try and make a difference? Who is not to say the guy did not go home and upon reflection think "maybe that copper was right".
Not being on a "real ride" does not turn the road into marshmallow if one has a real crash.

'Er indoors is an ex ED nurse. Same thing, exposure colours perception, I did eventually get her on a bike but it took 30 years.

But here's the thing, it works the other way too: nil to minimal exposure for most riders, especially new ones makes the risk seem far, far away.

Maybe we could do with a bit of a correction in that department. P'raps the constabulary could take a leaf out of the tobacco industry regulations and festoon their troll cars with anatomically correct pictures of all of this routine carnage.

**Erelyes** · 19th April 2015, 17:13

Originally Posted by Berries

I probably wouldn't use the same words but agree entirely.

Any chance we can all agree on what All The Gear actually means? Can we fuck, so all ATGATT threads are pointless from the start.

Sure. Set up a poll, ask 'does all the gear include:' and we can sort it out in a lovely democratic 'fashion'.

**Akzle** · 19th April 2015, 17:26

Originally Posted by Kickaha

If you gave that speech to me I'd tell you to fuck off,

... and then YOU would have "failed the attitude test" and come under more scrutiny

FTP.

**Akzle** · 19th April 2015, 17:27

if it's a large rabbit, it could be a pancake, was it shot with a macro lens? i mean, not bagging pikelets or anything... but we have to be a bit clearer on this!

also. fucken beer crepes with limon and sucre are the fucken shiz.

**samgab** · 19th April 2015, 17:53

Pandora's Box = opened!

Lol, but he's actually acting within the scope of current NZ policing, by giving a motorcyclist sage advice about protective gear, especially when he sees him put his 14yo daughter at risk. The best motorcycle rider in the world can come a cropper at the hands of a bad car driver, and in that situation his daughter would come off worst.
One of the key tenets of NZ Police these days is "Prevention First" which goes beyond simply enforcing the law, and encourages efforts to prevent road trauma and crime victimisation etc. Which is exactly what rastuscat seems to have been trying to do in this case... But hey, haters gon' hate.