South Auckland Street Skills

[eldog]

Yesterday I was thinking bout the amount of traction I had when suddenly the rear slid out LOL was in the car

thought it was time to reduce the pressure in my tyres to increase friction so the tyres heat up more (its cold outside) and get more grip. OK I'm not talking large amounts just 2-3 psi
Anyone got any ideas, maybe discussion at the pub?

Just to reinforce my ideas on traction a Beemer did a 180 while going around the SOuthgate roundabout. Had to applaude him (definitely a him) stopped the traffic long enough for a few of us to get through. If it was me it would have been a 360 its so slick there.

RANT: There a few other slick intersections in Pkura, Council never fixes them-only the straight bits 3 or four times same place every year WTF. Seemed to remember Scenic Drive similar crappy road surface designed to reduce traffic speed.

[eldog]

What happened to the rest of the 1,000 CCs?!

He cut the other 3 cylinders off the block to make the CBR into a Speed Triple

he pretty clever that man.

[nzspokes]

Who da hoon now?

To be fair Ive got to the edges of the Bandits tyres as well. This track stuff teaches you how to lean.

Its surprising how much further you can go than you think.

[eldog]

To be fair Ive got to the edges of the Bandits tyres as well. This track stuff teaches you how to lean.

Its surprising how much further you can go than you think.

try it with square scorpio tyres......

I remember our leaning at the Pkura On ramp, during that ride I never felt so safe. Amazing what feed back the tyres gave to simple person like me. I was impressed with how I could tell what was happening to the traction below me.

Thats why I suggested to Granda to give the pillion experience a go.

[Gremlin]

Its surprising how much further you can go than you think.

And then.... you can't

A lot depends on rider, bike, suspension and tyres. Not all tyres are equal, some are more rounded than others (mentioning this as it's less obvious than compound). Running off the edge of tyres results in a very sharp drop in contact patch and sidewalls aren't really designed for riding on.

Plus, just because you're grinding some part of a bike doesn't automatically mean you're leaning way over. Try taking a cruiser for a spin

[nzspokes]

And then.... you can't

A lot depends on rider, bike, suspension and tyres. Not all tyres are equal, some are more rounded than others (mentioning this as it's less obvious than compound). Running off the edge of tyres results in a very sharp drop in contact patch and sidewalls aren't really designed for riding on.

Plus, just because you're grinding some part of a bike doesn't automatically mean you're leaning way over. Try taking a cruiser for a spin

Agreed. When we got the Bandit, 2 up I scrapped pegs and boots along with the centre stand. It wasnt my epic skill but poorly set up suspension. Now I just touch my boot from time to time when being lazy.

Running off the edge of the tyre is not happy fun times.

[Sis]

And then.... you can't
Plus, just because you're grinding some part of a bike doesn't automatically mean you're leaning way over. Try taking a cruiser for a spin

Yep, know that feeling. Bent my exhaust pipe so much after dragging it on the road that I put a crack in it. I think AMPS thought it was defective and replaced it free of charge.

[Gremlin]

Yep, know that feeling. Bent my exhaust pipe so much after dragging it on the road that I put a crack in it. I think AMPS thought it was defective and replaced it free of charge.

Nice work.

Now that you mention it, I borrowed my boss's Blackbird at one point... then had to tell him afterwards I'd put big scrapes in the aftermarket headers as they sat a little proud of the fairing

[eldog]

I wasnt talking about riding at the edge of the tyre.

Looked at shape of tyre before I got on, took a mental picture.
Compared it to the angle of the bike relative to the ground.
Did this while Spokes repositioned himself before the corner.

Did a few calcs in my head, he probably was just getting to the start of the edge of the tyre
still mostly on the tyre itself.
felt the tyre when we finished, good heat across the surface (maybe 40 degree)
I am no tyre expert, I just look, listen, and take information. Rather than just accept like a
lemming.

I always question things part of why I still goto SASS so I can learn.

I get the feeling that most people dont read my posts correctly.....

its no wonder why I dont ride much any more. Just to pub and home again.

[eldog]

Yep, know that feeling. Bent my exhaust pipe so much after dragging it on the road that I put a crack in it. I think AMPS thought it was defective and replaced it free of charge.

Nah, you just flashed your eyes and pretended to be a little old lady rider.

[eldog]

And then.... you can't

A lot depends on rider, bike, suspension and tyres. Not all tyres are equal, some are more rounded than others (mentioning this as it's less obvious than compound). Running off the edge of tyres results in a very sharp drop in contact patch and sidewalls aren't really designed for riding on.

Plus, just because you're grinding some part of a bike doesn't automatically mean you're leaning way over. Try taking a cruiser for a spin

Wasnt talking about running off the edge of the tyre, but points taken.

need to get a better cruiser model, with higher or short stub pipes.

Trying to get some discussion about weather related available traction and what we can do to increase it now that the cold, wet and oily surface has arrived along with the shit road construction AKA Tyre Bleed

[nzspokes]

As im doing a bit of study on oils, we can have a chat about it next week If anybody is interested.

[eldog]

As im doing a bit of study on oils, we can have a chat about it next week If anybody is interested.

I am always interested in anything remotely mechanical/chemical/boobs/mining etc

committments next week, not sure the week after.

so if I miss out, I miss out. Thanks for the offer.

back to alcohol blindness....

[Gremlin]

Trying to get some discussion about weather related available traction and what we can do to increase it now that the cold, wet and oily surface has arrived along with the shit road construction AKA Tyre Bleed

A motorcycle's natural resting position is on its side, unlike a car which is its 4 wheels. The closer it is to its natural position, the more likely it is to adopt the position. Therefore, you want to maximise the time the motorcycle spends upright. A slippery road with a high crown presents more risk than a flat road with lots of grip.

Then, be aware of the surface by scanning forward as much as possible to give you the maximum reaction time. Try to avoid low traction areas, be aware of factors such as light rain after a long dry spell... etc.

[eldog]

A motorcycle's natural resting position is on its side, unlike a car which is its 4 wheels. The closer it is to its natural position, the more likely it is to adopt the position. Therefore, you want to maximise the time the motorcycle spends upright. A slippery road with a high crown presents more risk than a flat road with lots of grip.

Then, be aware of the surface by scanning forward as much as possible to give you the maximum reaction time. Try to avoid low traction areas, be aware of factors such as light rain after a long dry spell... etc.

Agree, seems to me most people don't want to talk about it or share the info. They only want to talk about wearing safe gear, not much about other important stuff.
so maybe SASS isn't the place for me and my ideas.

most don't want to know and think they are lucky not to experience what can happen to those who don't have that info in the first place - like me.

Being a NOOB hard to scan too much ahead, but I am getting more relaxed when I ride byself, this means that I can look further ahead and make better decisions. Less to worry about other riders and ME causing them any hassles.

Been trying to get the young guy who passes me every morning to wear gloves-no luck so far.

Seen mbike in its natural position several times now - not pretty.

Wondering if working 12-14 hour days then riding for 10minutes to meet with some like? minded riders is worth it only good bit I look forward to is going down the motorway on ramp.
Best acceleration the Scorpio will ever have unless I run it off a cliff LOL