My first poll for the NZ public

[bogan]

Its happening
Here . . .japan people often grow share gift food . . Help
The stumbling point is
Once you start to . . . . Completely remove yourself from the clutches of city hall
They start to get bent out of shape and start forcing u to comply
IF you can remain undetected you will be fine
But it puts people off investing effort into structures as these will be removed etc
Becauae if one person does it . . .everyone will do it and the whole of society . .will colapse
Ie the banks wont get their money

Well you still have to pay taxes etc ofc, not doing that is just contrary to sustainability principles.

[Brian d marge]

Well you still have to pay taxes etc ofc, not doing that is just contrary to sustainability principles.

Contribute to society . .taxes dont have to take the form of money

But we do have a social contact

[bogan]

Contribute to society . .taxes dont have to take the form of money

But we do have a social contact

No, but any contribution can be converted to money for that purpose.

So how does 'city hall' force compliance which makes such a system untenable?

[mashman]

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” ― Edward L. Bernays

And this was known almost 100 years ago. Perhaps you don't think this is how things work? Entirely your choice, but even a cursory glance at the world mirrors his words.

[5ive]

And this was known almost 100 years ago. Perhaps you don't think this is how things work? Entirely your choice, but even a cursory glance at the world mirrors his words.

But how can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?

[mashman]

But how can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?

Eh?..........

[Brian d marge]

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” ― Edward L. Bernays

And this was known almost 100 years ago. Perhaps you don't think this is how things work? Entirely your choice, but even a cursory glance at the world mirrors his words.

Dig a little deeper with that dodgy basket

[mashman]

Dig a little deeper with that dodgy basket

I have other things to do... can you give me the "quick" version?

[Ocean1]

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ..ords.

That's just what they told you to believe.

[mashman]

That's just what they told you to believe.

Who's they?

[Ocean1]

Who's they?

Tptb. Fucking steeple.

[mashman]

Tptb. Fucking steeple.

In which case yes, they did... just nothing really useful and inherently bullshit, as it turns out.

[Brian d marge]

I have other things to do... can you give me the "quick" version?

Bend over

United friut company and some other american bullying

One thing i liked i thought clever lucky strike wanted to sell more ciggies so he had wonen in the new york parade smoke . . . Wearing green as he had influenced that years fashion color which
Just so happened to be the same color as lucky strike

[5ive]

Bend over

United friut company and some other american bullying

One thing i liked i thought clever lucky strike wanted to sell more ciggies so he had wonen in the new york parade smoke . . . Wearing green as he had influenced that years fashion color which
Just so happened to be the same color as lucky strike

[Brian d marge]

I reckon . . . . Dodgy as the day is long