When is capital punishment ever justifiable?

[oldrider]

How can we abandon indisputably innocent men, women, and children to homicide?

USA does this all the time by the "employment of constant global war" as a means of controlling world economics and populations!

Why should they be so concerned for a few (by comparison) who find themselves on "civilisations" death row?

[James Deuce]

Where do your definitions come from? I certainly do not share them ...

Oh yeah .. and three times I have given you the opening to ask "What do you think? What is your opinion?" But you have missed them all ...

Having an opinion just opens up the "right" for the person demanding it to be an offensive bastard. It's a fundamentally unethical question because it is loaded with bias.

Morals and ethics are two very different things as Husaberg has pointed out. Ethics in modern society have become very fluid and tend to mirror social changes such as the acceptance that enforcing a gender binary is a bad thing. Gender binary is set by morals. Ethics modify those morals over time by imposing legal and social repercussions for those who refuse to adapt. Like the Westboro Baptist Church whose rigid moral code has generated revulsion and isolation because of a social ethical framework that demands respect for those who are murdered by their own state in the unethical pursuit of global economic dominance, usually justified by an outmoded moral code framed by some sandal-wearing sand farmers 4000 years ago.

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...ushpmg00000063

[RDJ]

USA does this all the time by the "employment of constant global war" as a means of controlling world economics and populations! Why should they be so concerned for a few (by comparison) who find themselves on "civilisations" death row?

I understand there are many who believe the Conspiracy Theories of History. From my point to of view - I believe bureaucrats and governments are too inefficient and stupid to conspire effectively, ever. What they are effective at is blocking the normal safeguards of logic, humanity, and ignoring the fact that the Standard is not the Ideal. The Standard is the best of the Available Alternatives. Hence - WWII and the Gulf Wars. But if you think the US is behind ISIS and the Illuminati are behind the US - then as someone famous once said "you cannot reason a man out of a position he has not reasoned himself into."

[scumdog]

Thinking about the men who have just been executed for drug offences, I wondered why anyone would put themselves in that position knowing the consequences. Regardless of whether you agre with a country's right to impose capital punishment surely you would not flout their laws when you could end up on the wrong side of them?
It got me thinking about whether there is any crime that is bad enough to warrant someone's life being taken. Oh sure, human nature is such that when you personalise the effects of heinous crimes (e.g. "what if it happened to my son/sister/uncle/daughter") our grief would demand justice or revenge, depending on how noble you wanted to be.
But is there really a line which can be drawn in the sand to say at what point a crime crosses over into the ultimate punishment bracket?
My heart goes out to the families who now have to grieve not only for what their sons have done but also now they've lost their lives as a consequence.

What crimes do you feel are bad enough to deserve execution?

When is it justifiable?

When it involved kiddie-rooters and smoking gun murderers I reckon.

[98tls]

When is it justifiable?

When it involved kiddie-rooters and smoking gun murderers I reckon.

That fuck up down in Dunners that stabbed his girlfriend a gazzillon times while her mum was downstairs,not sure whats worse what he did or the fact that he still breathes,both disgusting but nobody seems to give a fuck.

[husaberg]

That fuck up down in Dunners that stabbed his girlfriend a gazzillon times while her mum was downstairs,not sure whats worse what he did or the fact that he still breathes,both disgusting but nobody seems to give a fuck.

Putting aside the murder the worst part of that situation for me was the smug defence of provocation he used.
Sad thing is I remember his name but not the victims.

Clayton Weatherston's lack of remorse for the shocking murder of his ex-girlfriend was reflected in the judge's comments at his sentencing today.

Clayton Weatherston has been jailed for 18 years minimum non-parole in prison for Sophie Elliott's murder on January 9 last year.
Note
The sentence equates to one month for each of the 216 wounds he inflicted on the Dunedin woman.

[scumdog]

Putting aside the murder the worst part of that situation for me was the smug defence of provocation he used.
Sad thing is I remember his name but not the victims.

Sophie Elliot.

The fuckwit that killed had a poncy hanky-up-the-sleeve name of Clayton Wetherston (or similar), the fuckwit loser never stood a chance with a name like that.

[Paul in NZ]

When is it justifiable?

When it involved kiddie-rooters and smoking gun murderers I reckon.

Perfect match then....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...rtson-unmasked

[Banditbandit]

That fuck up down in Dunners that stabbed his girlfriend a gazzillon times while her mum was downstairs,not sure whats worse what he did or the fact that he still breathes,both disgusting but nobody seems to give a fuck.

I'd be interested to see what what happening to him in prison ... the other crims will not take kindly to his arrogant attitude ..

[Akzle]

Perfect match then....

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...rtson-unmasked

ahuh. i missed the bit where he did something with a firearm/ airgun that requires this picture to be thrown in the stupid-fuckwit-uneducated-indoctrinated-public's face

[caseye]

If ever there was a need for execution here it is!
Brick wall, he will stop being a menace and it'll only cost $.10 for the round. Why the need for biger than .22?
Instead of the countless millions he's already cost us and the continuing and ongoing it's going to cost.

[scumdog]

ahuh. i missed the bit where he did something with a firearm/ airgun that requires this picture to be thrown in the stupid-fuckwit-uneducated-indoctrinated-public's face

Regardless, he's still a fuckwitted thug, long may he rot in hell - and the sooner the better...

[Paul in NZ]

Regardless, he's still a fuckwitted thug, long may he rot in hell - and the sooner the better...

In a way I 'almost' feel sorry for him... I doubt he was born that way but it sounds like his mother at lest still cared. However be it nature or nurture the is just no way back from here. Lock the cunt up for the rest of his life? Throw millions at rehabilitation when hes refused everything?? Fucked if I know... I know what I feel though....

[Paul in NZ]

ahuh. i missed the bit where he did something with a firearm/ airgun that requires this picture to be thrown in the stupid-fuckwit-uneducated-indoctrinated-public's face

Just posing for a picture like that should be a crime against common sense... Idiot...