Cancer and the drug companies

**bogan** · 3rd June 2015, 22:43

Originally Posted by Edbear

Of course, with the alternative being death, one accepts a less than perfect life.

I think you'll find the reason for synthesizing has more to do with producing enough at an affordable price.

Have you seriously looked into weed as an alternative? If you can tolerate the numerous side effects of high dose tramadol, perhaps you can tolerate the side effects of weed?

Not done much gardening then?

**Madness** · 3rd June 2015, 23:06

Originally Posted by bogan

If you can tolerate the numerous side effects of high dose tramadol, perhaps you can tolerate the side effects of weed?

Don't be silly Bogz, no-one can tolerate the negative side effects of weed, not even the Edster. Weed is bad because Ed's research proves this, mmmmmkay?

Personally, I like to live on the edge. Bring on the munchies and an awesome night's sleep, I'm up for it.

**bogan** · 3rd June 2015, 23:13

Originally Posted by Madness

Don't be silly Bogz, no-one can tolerate the negative side effects of weed, not even the Edster. Weed is bad because Ed's research proves this, mmmmmkay?

Personally, I like to live on the edge. Bring on the munchies and an awesome night's sleep, I'm up for it.

I do find it ironic his research always seems to bag him the losing horse. Just looking at the weight of evidence towards legalisation, I'd say weed will be legal and easier to get than tramadol (an up and coming party pill that kills through OD) in 5-10 years.

**Katman** · 4th June 2015, 07:42

Originally Posted by Edbear

I think you'll find the reason for synthesizing has more to do with producing enough at an affordable price.

Really Ed?

Do you seriously think it's cheaper to synthesize the active ingredient of cannabis than it is for people to grow a couple of plants in their backyard?

You really are an incredibly stupid man.

**Katman** · 6th June 2015, 17:18

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...rUM7T6Y.mailto

Interesting read.

I've believed for a while now that our own brain holds the key to good health and well being.

**Edbear** · 6th June 2015, 21:46

Originally Posted by Katman

Really Ed?

Do you seriously think it's cheaper to synthesize the active ingredient of cannabis than it is for people to grow a couple of plants in their backyard?

You really are an incredibly stupid man.

Got a long way to go to get anywhere close to you. I would trust a conspiracy theorist with research as much as I would trust a Viper to not bite if I petted it.

Originally Posted by Zedder

Yep, that is indeed what I'm doing.

Maybe you should take a lesson from Ocean1.

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Nice theory. Fits your preconceived assumptions well. But it's wrong. They synthesise just the elements of the naturally occurring version that produce the benefits they want with none of the known and unknown side effects of the rest of the elements in the naturally occurring coctail. It's also usually easier than growing and refining it, and produces a product of higher quality with traceable standards compliance.

Originally Posted by Zedder

No, but here's a very similar situation:http://www.manchestereveningnews.co....husband-688401

Again, what legal alternatives did they really try? Acupuncture is a possible benefit for short term relief of some symptoms with a widely varying anecdotal testimony to its effectiveness. Some claim it's cured major diseases and some that it has had little or no benefit. Since it is the only other treatment he mentions, it leaves the obvious questions.

**Katman** · 7th June 2015, 08:11

Originally Posted by Edbear

Since it is the only other treatment he mentions, it leaves the obvious questions.

The most obvious question is, why is it taking so long to reform our cannabis laws?

**Katman** · 7th June 2015, 08:39

The real crime here is that the benefits that countless people could be gaining from a harmless, natural drug are being withheld from them due to those people's fear of being labelled a criminal.

**yokel** · 7th June 2015, 08:53

Originally Posted by Katman

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...rUM7T6Y.mailto

Interesting read.

I've believed for a while now that our own brain holds the key to good health and well being.

healthy mind healthy body,
most diseases are metabolic, what's in your brain is what's putting the food in your mouth.

Doctors use to prescribe smoking to relive stress, now that they cutting back on the numbers of people smoking whats going to happen?
nothing, people will still get cancer.

**FJRider** · 7th June 2015, 09:31

Originally Posted by Katman

The real crime here is that the benefits that countless people could be gaining from a harmless, natural drug are being withheld from them due to those people's fear of being labelled a criminal.

Countless people wont exceed a posted speed limit ... for fear of that exact same thing ...

Is it the legislation that needs changed first ... or peoples attitudes and opinions .. ??

**mashman** · 7th June 2015, 10:07

Originally Posted by FJRider

Is it the legislation that needs changed first ... or peoples attitudes and opinions .. ??

You only need to change the minds of a majority of 121 people apparently. Should be easy.

**Katman** · 7th June 2015, 10:09

Originally Posted by FJRider

Is it the legislation that needs changed first ... or peoples attitudes and opinions .. ??

I'm hearing ya.

Far too many people are awfully quick to look down their nose at 'stoners' - even while they themselves pour pint after pint down their throat. (Or, for that matter, while they happily throw a continuous cocktail of prescription pills down their throat).

**Zedder** · 7th June 2015, 10:42

Originally Posted by Edbear

Again, what legal alternatives did they really try? Acupuncture is a possible benefit for short term relief of some symptoms with a widely varying anecdotal testimony to its effectiveness. Some claim it's cured major diseases and some that it has had little or no benefit. Since it is the only other treatment he mentions, it leaves the obvious questions.

There were no other legal alternatives actually mentioned apart from acupuncture, however, you obviously missed the part in the article which twice stated "after conventional drugs failed to alleviate her pain".

The Judge also summed up in sentencing, the man was looking for a remedy for his wifes pain "outside the normal health service" but that probably doesn't suit your agenda as well.