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    I don't see any mention of 'cannabis overdose' in there though.

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    Of course you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDJ View Post
    Of course you don't.
    Well if that's suppose to mean that it's there if you look hard enough, perhaps you could help point it out - cos I still can't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Well if that's suppose to mean that it's there if you look hard enough, perhaps you could help point it out - cos I still can't find it.
    It means you can't see what is in front of you, As you have a obvious propensity to deny all things that don't suit your agenda, You demonstrate this repeatedly no mater how blatantly obvious things are.
    Its actually one of your few consistencies (other than your belief that everything is a conspiracy of course)
    But don't stop yet. Your continued belligerence does provide amusement.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RDJ View Post
    Of course you don't.
    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    It means you can't see what is in front of you, As you have a obvious propensity to deny all things that don't suit your agenda, You demonstrate this repeatedly no mater how blatantly obvious things are.
    Its actually one of your few consistencies (other than your belief that everything is a conspiracy of course)
    But don't stop yet. Your continued belligerence does provide amusement.
    Ummm, Lads - Katman does not appear to be saying there are no detrimental aspects of cannabis use What he is saying is he believes there are no cases of anyone dying from an overdose of cannabis.
    An overdose generally means too much of a single dose, not the cumulative effect of many, many doses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Ummm, Lads - Katman does not appear to be saying there are no detrimental aspects of cannabis use What he is saying is he believes there are no cases of anyone dying from an overdose of cannabis.
    An overdose generally means too much of a single dose, not the cumulative effect of many, many doses.
    It's not rocket surgery, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post

    All I'm asking for is the peer-reviewed, evidence based clinical trial literature that proves people have died from cannabis overdose.
    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    So if I just search 'died from cannabis', is it the one at the top of the page?
    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Ummm, Lads - Katman does not appear to be saying there are no detrimental aspects of cannabis use What he is saying is he believes there are no cases of anyone dying from an overdose of cannabis.
    An overdose generally means too much of a single dose, not the cumulative effect of many, many doses.
    ..........................................



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
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    He says overdose, not overuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    He says overdose, not overuse.
    Husaberk doesn't read too good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Husaberk doesn't read too good.
    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    He says overdose, not overuse.

    Pardon?...............
    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    So if I just search 'died from cannabis', is it the one at the top of the page?



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberk View Post
    Pardon?...............
    Dude, you don't understand basic English at the best of times so I don't expect you to recognise facetiousness when it's used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katflap View Post
    I don't expect you to recognise facetiousness when it's used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Pardon?...............
    This is the text you used in the katman quote YOU used
    " Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post

    All I'm asking for is the peer-reviewed, evidence based clinical trial literature that proves people have died from cannabis overdose."

    As you can see, he used the word OVERDOSE as against "Overuse" which is the context you are using in your replies.
    I'm wondering if you are as stupid as you are making out, or just trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Ummm, Lads - Katman does not appear to be saying there are no detrimental aspects of cannabis use What he is saying is he believes there are no cases of anyone dying from an overdose of cannabis.
    An overdose generally means too much of a single dose, not the cumulative effect of many, many doses.
    You are quite correct. Of course, implausible deniability is also a psychologically protective strategy which I believe the K-man employs on a regular basis. The primary difficulty here is, that chronic use at apparently safe doses leads to a considerable amount of harm. There are other papers published which point out the fact that acute overdose, leads to lethal harm.

    To reiterate for the Cheap Seats, this is in common with other normally prescribed medicines. But should we want to add cannabis to the list of normally prescribed medicines, we need to make sure that they are not go to harm people avoidably; and they are not going to harm people excessively compared to other prescribed medicines. This is where the Katman hypothesis fails, miserably.

    We have options for other medicines that work "more safely" than the un-regulated use of cannabinoids.

    I am all for people using what works for them. What I'd prefer to avoid is the unintended consequences of lackadaisical, agenda-driven, stupidly-recommended use of drugs that do not work even as well as what is already available. There rests the case.

    But I know, someone will object on the basis that I am being paid off by the Global, Zionist, Pharmaceutical Industry Conspiracy. If only. If that is what is happening, where is my pay cheque

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDJ View Post
    The primary difficulty here is, that chronic use at apparently safe doses leads to a considerable amount of harm. There are other papers published which point out the fact that acute overdose, leads to lethal harm.
    I have very little to disagree with anything you say. It is pretty much possible to overdose on just about anything and cause considerable harm, even water.

    Quote Originally Posted by RDJ View Post
    We have options for other medicines that work "more safely" than the un-regulated use of cannabinoids.
    Could well be, but prescription drugs are abused too. Maybe if the powers that be encouraged researched cannabinoid based medicine be developed and released, many would not feel the need for un-regulated use.

    Quote Originally Posted by RDJ View Post
    What I'd prefer to avoid is the unintended consequences of lackadaisical, agenda-driven, stupidly-recommended use of drugs that do not work even as well as what is already available.
    Funny you should mention that, I feel cannabis has been the victim of petroleum, cotton, tobacco, alcohol and possibly pharmaceutical self interest driven shenanigans for way, way to long.

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