W(h)anganui pronunciation

[Tazz]

I've always pronounced it "Gemmethefuckouttahere". Not sure if that is correct or not.

"Ghemmethefuckouttahere"

You just ruined Christmas.

[jasonu]

"Ghemmethefuckouttahere"

You just ruined Christmas.

Ganganui is often an appropriate pronunciation...

[eelracing]

Ganganui is often an appropriate pronunciation...

That would be Las Wangas to you Chuck.

[jasonu]

That would be Las Wangas to you Chuck.

I thought it was WangaVegas no fucking 'h'

[SPman]

If it was pronounced with a soft W the early settlers would have spelt it with a Wh. Most of the early maori words were spelt as they were heard. If there was a soft sibilant w, they spelt it that way - Whangarei - if it was a hard F sound, they'd probably have spelt it Fongarei. I've seen Kororareka spelt Kororadeka in early writings, to reflect how it was pronounced - then they changed the name to Russell - probably to make it easier for Europeans to pronounce.....

[Laava]

Keri keri has been spelt as kidee kidee in the past as well. Maybe they changed it to stop attracting pedos?

[RDJ]

Unless the local MHaori can regularly identify a new grievance to pHrofit from they will quickly become irrHelevant. So they - including KHen MHair - keep pushing some new agHenda every few months, thinking that we are going to feel guilty because of what happened (or may never have happened) over a cHentury ago. So far, they seem to be on a winning strategy. But sooner or later - probably sooner the way the economy is tanking - the (small) majority of net taxpayers (= the people who contribute more then they get back from the State) will say ENOUGH. As Margaret Thatcher said, the problem with socialism, including of course MHaori-based racist redistributionist socialism, is that "sooner or later you run out of Other People's Money". We are fast approaching peak OPM expenditure even in NZ. Just because the Greeks got there first, doesn't mean we are not that far behind.

[sidecar bob]

Apart from this clip showing a couple of munters crashing their sidecar about 28 years ago, at 1.54 the word Whanganui with a 'H" flashes up on the screen. Interesting that it was being spelt that way then. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NL6Q9e0HcRs

[RDJ]

Yes we have been told that every now and then in the 150 years "someone" put an H in there. But the spelling for the last 150 years has been almost exclusively without an H. Despite that, apparently we are going to spend a few tens of thousands of ratepayer dollars changing to a permanent H-name just because some bunch of intellectually challenged racist halfwits have decided that they want to impose their idiotic grammarian agenda on the rest of the population - because they can. I don't understand why they just don't write it with an H in their own correspondence using the Microsoft Word "insert" key - which comes as standard on every Microsoft software package - and don't expect the rest of us to pay to humor their their divisive racist idiocy.

But they probably just want a racial victory to feel better about themselves, because they know they are otherwise basically permanently in the population of life's inherent losers due to having no ability to rise above their backgrounds or their disadvantages, being unable - due to egocentricity, an overdeveloped sense of entitlement, and a lack of get-up-and-go to defer immediate gratification and overcome their poor impulse control long enough to study and educate themselves well enough - to get a worthwhile job, stick at it long enough to keep it and get promoted, and thereby work their way up up the social food chain.

[nodrog:Me]

Wait until they want the r put into ask.

[FJRider]

But they probably just want ...

Not ALL Treaty claims have been settled yet ...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yes we have been told that every now and then in the 150 years "someone" put an H in there. But the spelling for the last 150 years has been almost exclusively without an H. Despite that, apparently we are going to spend a few tens of thousands of ratepayer dollars changing to a permanent H-name just because some bunch of intellectually challenged racist halfwits have decided that they want to impose their idiotic grammarian agenda on the rest of the population - because they can. I don't understand why they just don't write it with an H in their own correspondence using the Microsoft Word "insert" key - which comes as standard on every Microsoft software package - and don't expect the rest of us to pay to humor their their divisive racist idiocy.

But they probably just want a racial victory to feel better about themselves, because they know they are otherwise basically permanently in the population of life's inherent losers due to having no ability to rise above their backgrounds or their disadvantages, being unable - due to egocentricity, an overdeveloped sense of entitlement, and a lack of get-up-and-go to defer immediate gratification and overcome their poor impulse control long enough to study and educate themselves well enough - to get a worthwhile job, stick at it long enough to keep it and get promoted, and thereby work their way up up the social food chain.

That is some appalling racist shit. Get back to the 1950's so you can beat your wife and kids after you've finished at the six oclock swill.

Guess what?"They" are people just like you and me. There is no "us" and "Them", not really. What you are talking about is an economic position that is occupied by all sorts of different people. Its a class war, or should be, not a race war, like you're starting.

[RDJ]

Based on the last few decades of experience, Treaty claims never will be settled. The imperative here is, Troughers gonna Trough. Every generation will say that the previous generation did not speak for them and will repudiate any settlement previously agreed upon. And Want More.

[RDJ]

That is some appalling racist shit. Get back to the 1950's so you can beat your wife and kids after you've finished at the six oclock swill.

Guess what?"They" are people just like you and me. There is no "us" and "Them", not really. What you are talking about is an economic position that is occupied by all sorts of different people. Its a class war, or should be, not a race war, like you're starting.

Excellent projection HDC. Textbook case.

[RDJ]

That is some appalling racist shit. Get back to the 1950's so you can beat your wife and kids after you've finished at the six oclock swill.

Guess what?"They" are people just like you and me. There is no "us" and "Them", not really. What you are talking about is an economic position that is occupied by all sorts of different people. Its a class war, or should be, not a race war, like you're starting.

If the minority instigators of this name changing effort were people just like you and me they wouldn't be spending energy and effort on changing a name in a language which they had never developed or written down. They would be getting ahead, working hard, raising their families, and being productive.