The fascist regime that made you a moron: Thanks dJonkey

[husaberg]

So far Ive spent all of three min
Shall I continue ?????? or is there enough to sow a seed of doubt ....
One more me thinks
90 % of polish jews ....damn all we need to do is find out how many polish jews were living after the war ....
Gosh those numbers look familiar ..........[/FONT]
Stephen

Stephen a simple question for you why is it that all the pro WWJCTB (World wide Jewish conspiracy theorists believers) need minimise and deny the existence of the Holocaust.

Why simply because the last lot of people that believed in the same theory (yes the exact same theory Nazi Germany used) used that same clap trap to justify the murder of millions of Jewish people.
Bluntly put, its a bad look PR wise, So WWJCTB need to put a bit of spin on it.

As evidenced by Katmans assertion that maybe only only thousands of people died and that was only maybe due to disease.
He places different levels of evidence requirements on either side.
To support his assertions a rumour is enough to prove his side.
Where as documents photos witness testimony physical evidence is all never enough to be any sort of proof its laughable

I also don't deny that countless thousands (quite possibly hundreds of thousands) died from the effects of their deprivation.
There seems to be a distinct lack of irrefutable proof to support a story that we've had rammed down our throats for the last 70 years.
And it makes me wonder whether there is an ulterior motive for doing so.
(And your suggestion that simply questioning an unsupported claim equates to anti-Semitism is laughable and demonstrates the complete lack of rationality you bring to the discussion).

Its the same reason Why Oldie can't answer a simple question.
I will give you the same question again as he has still not answered it. despite it being asked of him repeatedly

All dependent upon protection by the myth of anti-Semitism

The myth of anti Semitism?. I would like an explanation of this comment Oldie, is it just a myth were Jews and other religions ever striped of nationality or persecuted or prevented from owning land or had all there assets seized. Was this all really just a myth?

Seems they were treated pretty much like we here in NZ treated the Chinese in the goldrush.
There is also strong parallels with how the Australian aborigines were also treated.
The treatment of the American Indians seems eerily similar also.
This is not even comparing the treatment of the Black South Africans.
Or the white Zimbabwean's or the native Zimbabwean's a hundred or so years prior to this.

[Brian d marge]

Stephen a simple question for you why is it that all the pro WWJCTB (World wide Jewish conspiracy theorists believers) need minimise and deny the existence of the Holocaust.

Why simply because the last lot of people that believed in the same theory (yes the exact same theory Nazi Germany used) used that same clap trap to justify the murder of millions of Jewish people.
Bluntly put, its a bad look PR wise, So WWJCTB need to put a bit of spin on it.

As evidenced by Katmans assertion that maybe only tens of thousands of people died and that was only maybe due to disease.

May very well be true
But I think there are 2 many un answered questions
Or questions for that matter
And even the simple numbers dont stack up

All ive done is raise a few questions what u do with them is your matter

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[husaberg]

May very well be true
But I think there are 2 many un answered questions
Or questions for that matter
And even the simple numbers dont stack up

All ive done is raise a few questions what u do with them is your matter

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You have yet to raise anything that proves what occurred did not.
Its pretty simply a fact that has been proven in court multiple times. Feel free to prove it did not occur with evidence rather than innuendo.

[Brian d marge]

You really haven't done any reading, have you?

And I think it's you who doesn't understand the meaning of the word 'irrefutable'.

The very fact that many historians and learned scholars do actually refute the evidence you've listed indicates that it is certainly not 'irrefutable'.

I also think that is the case

Based on my experience a single body of similar sze and wieght took 20 min
Quick calc i got 160 000

Three min on google i found a red cross document showing a figure of 275 000

Then when shown the document . . Oh yes but . .

I will dig deeper because if any money is invovled the same names should appesr
Hahaha

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[TheDemonLord]

You really haven't done any reading, have you?

And I think it's you who doesn't understand the meaning of the word 'irrefutable'.

The very fact that many historians and learned scholars do actually refute the evidence you've listed indicates that it is certainly not 'irrefutable'.

On the Contrary - I have presented my Evidence, Present yours to refute that which I have presented.

In fact, don't bother - Go to Birkenau, Go visit the Gas chambers (They are still there) Go see the Scratches in the walls, Go see the Staining on the walls from the ZyklonB

Once you have done that, you will need to present a Theory that can explain all of things that you have witnessed AND you will need to provide evidence to support your alternate theory AND you will need to present evidence that refutes the currently held theory.

It was a shame that when I was last in Germany I didn't get a chance to go to the concentration camps and see the ruins.

[mashman]

I form opinions based on weight of evidence, not on one or two easily explainable co-incidences, I don't go looking into a subject assuming I know there is a conspiracy.
I find it funny what you say, Simply because it is clearly made without examining what it is you are indoctrinated with.
You hassle a few on KB about religion totally oblivious to the fact your own religion is conspiracy

History is a great teacher you just need to observe what and why events occurred.
I have yet to see a single fact to support any argument you have ever raised on KB conversely you ignore all facts presented to you, why because they don't suit your argument, Simply Mashy you can't win an discussion with any reasonable person based on your opinion backed by your opinion reinforced by your own opinion.
When you have no facts offer no evidence. you will gain the support of like minded people who like you need to believe events did not occur.

I'm indoctrinated in both worlds... as I understand the position of both sides of the argument. Evidence is what is presented outcome for our pallet gets the big tickaroony in regards to taking a side.
Hassle ... each to his own.

It's a shit teacher.
You choose not to see my side of the argument until I have seen yours. I have lived your side of the argument, I decided to see what the other side was like too in order to form a more balanced opinion, yet you remain mentally inelastic and point blank refuse to budge from your position. I'm not looking to win anything There is no such thing as a like minded human! See, your base psychology is fucked from the get go because of the singular indoctrinated position you have chosen to take. Meh.

[Brian d marge]

You have yet to raise anything that proves what occurred did not.
Its pretty simply a fact that has been proven in court multiple times. Feel free to prove it did not occur with evidence rather than innuendo.

At whst point did i say that it did not occur
A tragedy occured caused by both sides but I THINK is being milked by a small group
Kinda like 9 11 to many hang on a miniutes



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[TheDemonLord]

I also think that is the case

Based on my experience a single body of similar sze and wieght took 20 min
Quick calc i got 160 000

Three min on google i found a red cross document showing a figure of 275 000

Then when shown the document . . Oh yes but . .

I will dig deeper because if any money is invovled the same names should appesr
Hahaha

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I pointed out the holes in your Calculations - but keep setting up those Strawmen.

Your arguement is as fallacious as saying 'It takes me an Hour to bake a loaf of Bread at home, so there is no way a bakery could bake 100 loaves a day, there isn't 100 hours in a day.

I will re-look at the Red Cross document, but I noticed something - it is written in German - Sprechen sie Deutsch?

[Katman]

On the Contrary - I have presented my Evidence, Present yours to refute that which I have presented.

In fact, don't bother - Go to Birkenau, Go visit the Gas chambers (They are still there) Go see the Scratches in the walls, Go see the Staining on the walls from the ZyklonB

Once you have done that, you will need to present a Theory that can explain all of things that you have witnessed AND you will need to provide evidence to support your alternate theory AND you will need to present evidence that refutes the currently held theory.

It was a shame that when I was last in Germany I didn't get a chance to go to the concentration camps and see the ruins.

I've been to Dachau.

It is certainly not disputed that each Concentration Camp had rooms suitable for fumigation purposes.

"Scratches on the walls"? Please.

Can you state with 100% absolute certainty that they were made by dying Jews?

They could just as easily have been created by some other means or at a later date.

[Brian d marge]

I pointed out the holes in your Calculations - but keep setting up those Strawmen.

Your arguement is as fallacious as saying 'It takes me an Hour to bake a loaf of Bread at home, so there is no way a bakery could bake 100 loaves a day, there isn't 100 hours in a day.

I will re-look at the Red Cross document, but I noticed something - it is written in German - Sprechen sie Deutsch?

My simple argument raised a question the later seemed to be supported
At this point one might be going hmmmmm why is that

Heres another hmmmm according to thr jewish press 90 percent of jews in poland were killed
A simple before and after head count should tell us something

Red cross should have those figures

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[TheDemonLord]

My simple argument raised a question the later seemed to be supported
At this point one might be going hmmmmm why is that

Heres another hmmmm according to thr jewish press 90 percent of jews in poland were killed
A simple before and after head count should tell us something

Red cross should have those figures

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Stop dodging the burden of Proof - Either submit your sources for Peer Review or stop making Baseless Claims.

[bogan]

True , People have told you this before , I have said it a few posts back .... ITS NOT THE WIDER GROUP PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT ..... see post 1



See post 1 and if you knew anything about them you wouldnt have ask the second part of your question ..... is there any part of .... SEE POST 1 ,,,,, that you dont understand , with my shit writing and all ...



I dont think you understand Zionism or the Zionist movement ...SEE POST 1



The same testimony that were later found to be false ...but I will answer this in detail for demonlord



SEE post 1 , ( me and mashie disagree on units of trade , nowt to do with this conversation)



WTF are you reading , See post 1 and then look up socialism .....



I posted rather badly as I was eating Sushi in a conveyer sushi bar using a phone .... Ill edit it later



ff sake see post 1 are you seriously saying Zionism is a movenment for ( the ) good ?


yes I tried ....but Fail.org.com



because you seem not to know what you are talking about ...see the above text ....



Is it clear now ?

Zionism ( or the people that are using it for there agenda ) bad fairy haters
just to clarify ..........

re-quoting your first point

What I am reading about though? You made vague-ish claims that perhaps I would dislike Jews if I read about how much things they own? Is that where I start?

No, Zionism is where u should start

Stephen

Post 1 is about the GCSB, not sure how that ties in with zionism.

Why do you go to such lengths to avoid unambiguously stating your position? You keep telling me I'm wrong, how about showing it? instead of using this beige fucking go-an-read-some-more cop out.

Simple questions, do you think zionism is evil? do you think all zionists are bad people?

[TheDemonLord]

I've been to Dachau.

It is certainly not disputed that each Concentration Camp had rooms suitable for fumigation purposes.

"Scratches on the walls"? Please.

Can you state with 100% absolute certainty that they were made by dying Jews?

They could just as easily have been created by some other means or at a later date.

Here they are - If not the dieing struggles of people then What? And again, Submit the supporting Evidence for said Theory.

[Katman]

Here they are - If not the dieing struggles of people then What? And again, Submit the supporting Evidence for said Theory.

Your argument consists of nothing more than "someone told me these marks were made by dying Jews so that's what they must be".

[Brian d marge]

Post 1 is about the GCSB, not sure how that ties in with zionism.

Why do you go to such lengths to avoid unambiguously stating your position? You keep telling me I'm wrong, how about showing it? instead of using this beige fucking go-an-read-some-more cop out.

Simple questions, do you think zionism is evil? do you think all zionists are bad people?

Post1 is not about gcsb I not sure which post one you are reading

Try the big black letters at the bottom


Finally
Yes and then no

The the last 2 questions

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