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    Our workplace is reasonably safe although I have to say that ... I'm the Health and Safety guy. We've averaged an accident every 23 days over the past 8 years for a staff of about 90. Nothing worse than a broken bone in a foot, a couple of broken toes and a cracked rib though. Slips and trips account for a bit over 30% of our accidents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner View Post
    Just watched a bunch of those videos - surprisingly addictive.
    Yes they are despite the monotone Yank voiceover...

    My views and well liked/enjoyed all of them, learnt something etc... are in no particular order;

    Filling blind, Dangers of hot work (that poor crane driver), the ammonia one, several of the major dust explosions ones, several of refinery jobs, fireworks disposal (what numpties).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie View Post
    Our workplace is reasonably safe although I have to say that ... I'm the Health and Safety guy. We've averaged an accident every 23 days over the past 8 years for a staff of about 90. Nothing worse than a broken bone in a foot, a couple of broken toes and a cracked rib though. Slips and trips account for a bit over 30% of our accidents.
    I guess there is no chance of getting a clothing snag!
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    Also of interest and how I found the other vids was watching these others first.
    Got googling bridge collapses after talking to the engineers do a job at work in between their work on Mohaka bridge....



    Also of interest:

    more bad maintanaince/design than workplace accident though

    Manius bridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UenU6EzHbTw

    And Schiharie creek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOwi2tilFKo

    And why you don't smoke/weld why tanker is in port. this disaster was pivotal moment in maritime shipping safety regs changing...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNr0In-a1c0
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    Our workplace is physically pretty safe ...

    Mentally - It's a massive risk .. causes insanity ...
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    We no longer have any risk of swine flu, cause all the zillions of posters about washing hands have now faded to white. The walls are now plastered with posters about 'Gossip can be harmful' in the work place and how this site is now a 'gossip free' workplace. This in a place of 400+ staff facing redundancies and restructuring?
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    Safe as.


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    Quote Originally Posted by awa355 View Post
    We no longer have any risk of swine flu, cause all the zillions of posters about washing hands have now faded to white. The walls are now plastered with posters about 'Gossip can be harmful' in the work place and how this site is now a 'gossip free' workplace. This in a place of 400+ staff facing redundancies and restructuring?
    I see where they're heading. No need for redundancies if a bunch of you get swine flu

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    Familiarity breeds contempt. People will be on edge and do things by the letter when they first start working in a potentially lethal environment but after a few years its possible to become a bit jaded and cut corners or be careless - skip the double/triple checks, sign off permits to work without physically checking everything off - all in the interests of getting the job done quickly.

    Look how newly qualified drivers do things by the book - after even just a few months of driving they start to pick up bad habits. You don´t even notice yourself the risks you and nearly every other driver takes until your in the passenger seat.

    Sometimes things have been done "incorrectly" for years and its been sheer luck that nothing bad has happened. One day the wheel of chance spins and everything lines up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonbuoy View Post
    Familiarity breeds contempt. People will be on edge and do things by the letter when they first start working in a potentially lethal environment but after a few years its possible to become a bit jaded and cut corners or be careless - skip the double/triple checks, sign off permits to work without physically checking everything off - all in the interests of getting the job done quickly.

    Look how newly qualified drivers do things by the book - after even just a few months of driving they start to pick up bad habits. You don´t even notice yourself the risks you and nearly every other driver takes until your in the passenger seat.

    Sometimes things have been done "incorrectly" for years and its been sheer luck that nothing bad has happened. One day the wheel of chance spins and everything lines up.
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    Did working at heights full day training today and then found out it doesn't include harness inspection anymore. That's an advanced course now with an extra days training required. Tomorrow I have a full day training for mobile platforms. In 2 weeks time I have a full days training for confined spaces.
    Three weeks ago I had a half day induction for a site. Last week another induction for the same site under a different service provider plus a 3hr online induction course. A while ago I had an electrical registration refresher course to renew my practising licence and then a site safe first aid course plus cpr.
    We had a half day toolbox meeting about the changes and workplace NZ ability to send blame and fines up the food chain.

    I was thinking of trying something new soon. A SOLID DAYS WORK to pay for these courses which are normally around $250 each and lose a days productivity to teach me the slowest way possible to carry out work and spend a huge amount on the latest gear to do it.

    Im ticking all the boxes though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    Im ticking all the boxes though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    Did working at heights full day training today and then found out it doesn't include harness inspection anymore. That's an advanced course now with an extra days training required. Tomorrow I have a full day training for mobile platforms. In 2 weeks time I have a full days training for confined spaces.
    Three weeks ago I had a half day induction for a site. Last week another induction for the same site under a different service provider plus a 3hr online induction course. A while ago I had an electrical registration refresher course to renew my practising licence and then a site safe first aid course plus cpr.
    We had a half day toolbox meeting about the changes and workplace NZ ability to send blame and fines up the food chain.

    I was thinking of trying something new soon. A SOLID DAYS WORK to pay for these courses which are normally around $250 each and lose a days productivity to teach me the slowest way possible to carry out work and spend a huge amount on the latest gear to do it.

    Im ticking all the boxes though.
    +1 . We work all over the country , our work is potentially extremely dangerous, you mess up there is a good chance you will die. One of our largest clients had a fatal last year, the guy stuffed up , it is being blamed on a lack of training. We now have safety meetings, process & paperwork for africa , courses for this & courses for that. The loss in productivity is difficult to recover but will be reflected in increased charges, something the clients is not happy about.

    So much of it seems to be an exercise in arse covering with improved safety being a by product.

    I get the shits when the Safety Doris does an audit, she ticks all the boxes on her clip board , she would not have a bloody clue about what is really going on , just checks all the test tags , snivels about access ways & trip hazards . When the really dangerous shit is happening they will always be noticeable by their absence, so that they can distance themselves from any thing that goes wrong & maintain deniability.

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    One day at work, I ordered a Hot Chocolate, but instead I got a coffee of some sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mossy1200 View Post
    Did working at heights full day training today and then found out it doesn't include harness inspection anymore. That's an advanced course now with an extra days training required. Tomorrow I have a full day training for mobile platforms. In 2 weeks time I have a full days training for confined spaces.
    And both of those things still kill and maim people far too often.
    I've been working at a large site where one of the businesses competitive edges is we are safer than our competitors. A work colleague of mine was injured a long time ago in the good old no-osh days and it has hampered his life ever since. He is now back at same site and doing different job but if was doing same stuff the same accident would be lot less likely due to our modern protocols.
    The thing is outside contractors keep on proving themselves to be the most dangerous things on site despite clear warnings about certain procedures and access protocols. So you cant blame these companies for making people prove their competency before giving the a chance to interrupt your productivity.
    The second day I was onsite a major incident occurred due to plant failure, no one was killed or injured precisely due to the previously considered silly rules. The operator was highly experienced but it really drove home for me why we have these protocols and regimes. A procedure was slightly amended afterwards also but it was the rules that prevented a tragedy.
    I've seen the other side of the coin, frustrated by a largely American student workforce operating forklifts to the nth degree of safety taking too long to unload my truck (eg doing the osh handbrake thing at every move) and done my own corner cutting from time to time but you have to respect someone saying this is how you do the job at our place/site.

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