MotoGP 2015

[husaberg]

An interesting thought, and a history lesson:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/ra...-its-champion/

Missing from that story is the whys.
Ivy had pulled out a huge lead at the IOM and then actually stopped part way arround the circuit until Read had a lead.
Read had introduced Ivy to Yamaha.
Ivy also used to wind up Read. But he had "generally" followed the orders Yamaha had come up with to ensure they beat Honda for the titles rather than just each other.
The other thing was a savey Read knew Yamaha were pulling out at the end of the season so he had nothing to lose by going against orders.
Ivy also had a bit of bad luck.
If i come accross it i will post the Ivy Story out of Classic racer.
It actually says Ivy did really protest the final race due to the number size even thought the machines were identically equiped.

As a side note Peter Williams had missed out on the Yamaha Works ride IVY got after he honestly admitted to Yamaha Management that he didn't honestly think he could beat Hailwood.
A bloody shame as he was an excellent development engineer as well as a rider.
Likely the most underated Pom ever.

[J.A.W.]

Phil Read is a super-competitive mind games guy, like V.R. - his gamesmanship is as good as his riding & was often the difference in gaining wins.
Obviously - he simply shrugged off the haters too.. but he was a canny rider & survivor, in a period when racing death was common..

[husaberg]

The rest which cover the IVY VS Read plus the Degner stuff that was in the same issue.
Click on the attachments three times.

As for Read

Ferry and I did a lot of silly things. With about 134° transfer timing his piston shortening would give an inlet timing of 226°.
It was not uncommon in those days; Bultaco did it too on their TSS250. Remember: back then the carburettors were tiny by current standards.
A more drastic mod by Ferry was raising the inlet ports until they opened at BDC. That's right: C-transfer ports directly connected to the carbs; no reed interference (but quite a lot of Read interference; dear Phil MBE was not the easiest person to get along with).

[roogazza]

An interesting thought, and a history lesson:
http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/ra...-its-champion/

Thanks for posting pritch . I followed all that as an 18 yr old. Had to wait for the English bike papers to arrive ,took ages. Remember my couple of YDS3s fondly.
I think Ivy was killed testing a Jawa from memory? Read had a lot of haters.

[husaberg]

Thanks for posting pritch . I followed all that as an 18 yr old. Had to wait for the English bike papers to arrive ,took ages. Remember my couple of YDS3s fondly.
I think Ivy was killed testing a Jawa from memory? Read had a lot of haters.

Practice session on the Jawa there was talk a plug oiled up and he was checking to see by feeling which one it was, by feeling for the cold cylinder when it suddenly chimed back in throwing him off there was also talk his helmet strap may have not been done up. Sad loss of a great talent. Jack Findlay was meant to join Jawa but his wife or girlfiend wouldn't let him as it had a history of unreliabilty. in the article it says it seized in the wet but it also says his helmet came off.

Sammy Miller I guess is deaf already.
My father actually still has a YDS3. Its bloody heavy for a 250 doesn't feel any lighter than an A65.

[J.A.W.]

Ironically it was Yamaha ace Phil Read riding for MV Agusta & upsetting Ago's applecart ( classic case of 'cognitive dissonance' there, psych fans)..
.. with all kinds of modernising ideas ( such as.. disc brakes! horrors.. just imagine!), that sent Ago off to Yamaha, & so win for them - their first 500cc World Championship..

[Autech]

Guess who's back, back again... Elias is back, tell a friend:
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/223...rd-yamaha.html

They thank Corti, but wish to tell him to fuck off.

[Autech]

Shit this headline caught me out before I clicked on it:
http://www.crash.net/f1/news/223080/...singapore.html

[J.A.W.]

My father actually still has a YDS3. Its bloody heavy for a 250 doesn't feel any lighter than an A65.

Yeah H, they are a bit porky for a 250 2T, but seriously - you really ought to be able to feel the ~20Kg difference,
- bet you'd notice it - on your missus..L.O.L...

[eelracing]

Told ya..

Only question is, can Dani-boi get his act together & run up front with M-M, to split those factory Yamahas..

Hoho look who's takn the mimi now...Dani's current form would suggest otherwise.

Marquez will be the kingmaker in this championship.Where coming into some pretty strong Lorenzo tracks now and MM rubbing up Jorge will be just what the doctor ordered.

[J.A.W.]

Hoho look who's takn the mimi now...Dani's current form would suggest otherwise.

Marquez will be the kingmaker in this championship.Where coming into some pretty strong Lorenzo tracks now and MM rubbing up Jorge will be just what the doctor ordered.

We'll see, if Honda big-boss wants results, he'll have to read Dani-boi the bloody Riot Act, but I'm pickin' - he still wants V.R. to eat shit too..

[trustme]

Honda does not give a fat flying fuck about Yamaha , VR or any other peripheral BS. They have only one goal & that is for their bikes to win.
What wins on Sunday, sells on Monday.

[J.A.W.]

Honda does not give a fat flying fuck about Yamaha , VR or any other peripheral BS. They have only one goal & that is for their bikes to win.
What wins on Sunday, sells on Monday.

Sure - that's why you can trot down to the local Honda shop this arvo & buy a lovely, affordable RCV just like M-Ms..
& to describe the championship leader as "peripheral BS" is, well, yeah, its - too funny..

[roogazza]

My father actually still has a YDS3. Its bloody heavy for a 250 doesn't feel any lighter than an A65.

They were fairly heavy for their day,I had two of them a 64 and 66,( 66 same as the pic).
Had a couple of T20 Suzukis as well which were far more flimsy and lighter.

I've found a mint 66 in Aussie, but the guy wants moonbeams for it.

[J.A.W.]

They were fairly heavy for their day,I had two of them a 64 and 66,( 66 same as the pic).
Had a couple of T20 Suzukis as well which were far more flimsy and lighter.

I've found a mint 66 in Aussie, but the guy wants moonbeams for it.

Suzukis were indeed.. I recently had a spin on an X7 250 again & it felt quite toy-like, more like a 125..