Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

[Brian d marge]

Which will be less, if not removed completely over what they are now. Now I know you are bright enough to know that's the whole point of a free trade agreement.

For example ... from what I heard tonight ... Japan currently whacks about 38% tariff on NZ beef. That will reduce to 9% over a few years.

A possibilty of 9 percent over 15 years
Nz is zero percent

As the australian market stands atm
Aussie beef is popular here more so than nz

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Premier Tony Abbott signed the accord in July, under which Japan agreed to gradually lower tariffs on Australian chilled beef to 23.5 percent over 15 years from 38.5 percent. They’re currently at 31.5 percent after two rounds of cuts. Duties on frozen beef will be halved to 19.5 percent over 18 years.



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[Oakie]

A possibilty of 9 percent over 15 years
Nz is zero percent

As the australian market stands atm
Aussie beef is popular here more so than nz

Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Premier Tony Abbott signed the accord in July, under which Japan agreed to gradually lower tariffs on Australian chilled beef to 23.5 percent over 15 years from 38.5 percent. They’re currently at 31.5 percent after two rounds of cuts. Duties on frozen beef will be halved to 19.5 percent over 18 years.

Awesome! Good to know someone here has some facts.

[carbonhed]

Hey cleatus

Check out walmarts budget

Bring the family as you will need all the hand and feet

As the numbers go way past 10

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What's Walmart going to be suing us over fucktard?

[Brian d marge]

What's Walmart going to be suing us over fucktard?

I knew i would be pushing shit uphill

Lets try again

Instead of walmart . . .insert monsanto



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[Brian d marge]

Awesome! Good to know someone here has some facts.

Thats as it stands now im not in a position to find dairy tarrifs atm

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[carbonhed]

I knew i would be pushing shit uphill

Lets try again

Instead of walmart . . .insert monsanto



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So we're not going to be sued by Walmart anymore? Damn this is so confusing. Thank God we've got you to explain the intricacies of global trade treaties.

Why don't you insert Monsanto... deep up you're capacious asshole. It will assist if you try pushing it uphill.

[Laava]

Will be interesting to see how much better off I will be financially under this regime. Not going to have a pre-spend tho, in case it doesn't work out. Heard some very contrary opinions on how it will affect us on a personal level.
Just hope me old mate Theo Speiring doesn't miss out, poor cunt could do with a raise

[Shaun Harris]

So we're not going to be sued by Walmart anymore? Damn this is so confusing. Thank God we've got you to explain the intricacies of global trade treaties.

Why don't you insert Monsanto... deep up you're capacious asshole. It will assist if you try pushing it uphill.

fuk, take a chill pill dude

[buggerit]

So , can Monsanto now sue us if we continue banning G E plants etc?

[pete376403]

So , can Monsanto now sue us if we continue banning G E plants etc?

Quite possibly;


Investor–state arbitration (ISDS)[edit]

Commenting in the New Republic, the director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch, Lori Wallach, in April 2015 said


“We consider it inappropriate to elevate an individual investor or company to equal status with a nation state to privately enforce a public treaty between two sovereign countries", ... “[ISDS] gives extraordinary new privileges and powers and rights to just one interest. Foreign investors are privileged vis-a-vis domestic companies, vis-a-vis the government of a country, [and] vis-a-vis other private sector interests",
"... the basic reality of ISDS: it provides foreign investors alone access to non-U.S. courts to pursue claims against the U.S. government on the basis of broader substantive rights than U.S. firms are afforded under U.S. law".[113]

According to The Nation's interpretation of leaked documents in 2012, countries would be obliged to conform all their domestic laws and regulations to the TPP's rules, even limiting how governments could spend their tax dollars.[114] As of 2012, US negotiators were pursuing an investor-state dispute settlement mechanism, also known as corporate tribunals, which according to The Nation can be used to "attack domestic public interest laws".[114] This mechanism, a common provision in international trade and investment agreements, grants an investor the right to initiate dispute settlement proceedings against a foreign government in their own right under international law. For example, if an investor invests in country "A", a member of a trade treaty, and country A breaches that treaty, then the investor may sue country A's government for the breach.[115] The Australian government's position against investor state dispute settlement has been argued to support the rule of law and national energy security.[116]

Philip Morris v. Uruguay is one current dispute. In 2010, the tobacco company Philip Morris International sued Uruguay for compensation of losses caused by Uruguay's anti-smoking health legislation, under an existing bilateral treaty between Switzerland and Uruguay. Similarly, in 2012, Philip Morris Asia sued Australia for compensation for Australia's plain tobacco packaging legislation, under a bilateral treaty between Hong Kong and Australia. Both cases are ongoing. These cases are atypical, but illustrate the degree to which ISDS may come to constrain national legislation.

On March 26, 2015 WikiLeaks released the TPP's Investment Chapter.[117] According to WikiLeaks, the accord would grant the power to global corporations to sue governments in tribunals organized by the World Bank or the United Nations to obtain taxpayer compensation for loss of expected future profits due to government actions.[118]

[Brian d marge]

So we're not going to be sued by Walmart anymore? Damn this is so confusing. Thank God we've got you to explain the intricacies of global trade treaties.

Why don't you insert Monsanto... deep up you're capacious asshole. It will assist if you try pushing it uphill.

My explaination is just fine the problem is between your ears

Must be so frustrating ,

I mean the sense of loss wouldn't be so bad if you heard multiple voices, but having to wait for an eternity for just one

and then only in monosyllabic

I cant imagine the frustration.....

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[AllanB]

Will be interesting to see how much better off I will be financially under this regime.

I'd wage the 'average' guy (apologizes if you are not average) does not notice anything.

[Brian d marge]

I'd wage the 'average' guy (apologizes if you are not average) does not notice anything.

I hope you are right


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[Ocean1]

just one

Oh, but I also think you're a whiney arsed know nothing blowhard with zero credibility.

[Brian d marge]

Who turns out to be right more often than not



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