L-Plate Rider
Hey guys, new to the site. I have a question which has probably been gone over too many times... I've just bought a new R1 and am wanting to know what fellow riders have done with their new bikes during the engine break in, follow owners manual or otherwise, do's and donts? 1600km seems like a fair bit of a break in period.. Thanks in advance
Forum whore
Ah the old how to break-in my new engine question.
1600 - my new Ducati has a break-in regime in the owners manual for 2500 kms! See 1600 is not too bad. :-)
Main advise I'll give is don't lug it around in a tall gear, you'll be better off letting it rev a bit than slugging the engine along trying to keep it under XX rpm. Also a variation in revs is desirable as opposed to a constant droning along the highway in top gear.
You are getting used to the bike as well so a joint break-in is a good way to go.
Nice ride - enjoy.
Hardcore Biker
read the manual, the r1 has a set break in period its helpful for the engine to bed in.Originally Posted by d3v3agl3
however on another note on the race engines we used to build and throw on the dyno
got no mercy once the fuel air ratio was setup..
i'm motarded
don't let it idle for too long , ride it nicely until its up to temp, then thrash it.
Hardcore Biker
Some people will tell you camshafts, followers and gears need a few thousand miles on them to polish and match wear faces.
Others will say you only have the first few hundred miles to load up the motor (not lugging) to get the rings to seat properly.
I'm with the seat the rings properly camp. I wouldn't baby or lug a new engine. Being a litre bike I would be more concerned with getting enough load on the engine - not sure how much time you will ever spend at full throttle before you run out of road. Avoid heavy traffic and give it plenty of heat cycles. My 10c.
I love the smell of twin V16's in the morning..
Forum whore
After you've done which ever above posts id dump the oil n filter at about 500kms or less and get fresh stuff in.
Forum whore
Your bike came with an owners manual. This was put together with the help of the engineers who designed it. Any reason for not just following that?
Fully qualified Sifter.
100% what this perv says.
L-Plate Rider
Normally the only time someone asks this question, is when they stumbled across the motoman break-in method.
Its your money and your bike, ultimately you can do whatever you want with it... The people that designed and built your engine, wrote the documentation and break-in procedure for a good reason. Its most definitely in their best interest supplying you with a product that wont blow up in a months time because you followed their recommendations.
Things I did when breaking in my past motorcycles :
- Let it warm up properly in the morning when its cold, before riding off
- Stick to the : "keep it below x - rpm for the first 600 / 800 km's before pushing it slightly harder"
- Avoid keeping it on long straight roads on a constant RPM for prolonged periods of time... go read up on glazing of cylinder walls, you dont want that.
- Short bursts of power often is highly recommended... like someone mentioned earlier, ensure there is load on the engine as much as possible.
- When they say dont thrash it, it doesn't mean keeping it below 3000 rpm and treating it like a fragile newborn... Giving it some throttle to accelerate hard for short periods of time, below the recommended RPM limit is what you should aim for
At the end of the day, decide if you would trust the advice of a engineer that studied many years to work in a motorcycle manufacturer building plant, vs a guy that has a website that looks like it was designed by a 3 year old child, and looks like a backyard mechanic from some ghetto.
On the other hand... you are taking advice from the kiwibiker forums, that alone is a risk on its own
Forum whore
this....except for the warm up Just ride of gently.Give it some throttle and revs as soon as 500 ks..You need to give it lots of throttle soon ish too,just in short bursts...be careful the first few times you try thisNormally the only time someone asks this question, is when they stumbled across the motoman break-in method.
Its your money and your bike, ultimately you can do whatever you want with it... The people that designed and built your engine, wrote the documentation and break-in procedure for a good reason. Its most definitely in their best interest supplying you with a product that wont blow up in a months time because you followed their recommendations.
Things I did when breaking in my past motorcycles :
- Let it warm up properly in the morning when its cold, before riding off
- Stick to the : "keep it below x - rpm for the first 600 / 800 km's before pushing it slightly harder"
- Avoid keeping it on long straight roads on a constant RPM for prolonged periods of time... go read up on glazing of cylinder walls, you dont want that.
- Short bursts of power often is highly recommended... like someone mentioned earlier, ensure there is load on the engine as much as possible.
- When they say dont thrash it, it doesn't mean keeping it below 3000 rpm and treating it like a fragile newborn... Giving it some throttle to accelerate hard for short periods of time, below the recommended RPM limit is what you should aim for
At the end of the day, decide if you would trust the advice of a engineer that studied many years to work in a motorcycle manufacturer building plant, vs a guy that has a website that looks like it was designed by a 3 year old child, and looks like a backyard mechanic from some ghetto.
On the other hand... you are taking advice from the kiwibiker forums, that alone is a risk on its own
i'm motarded
make up your mind.
L-Plate Rider
Thanks for the info guys, much appreciate it. In response to a few yes I do have an owners manual that I have read and intend on following, just looking for added tips from experience. I.e I've been asked on a trip from chch to Greymouth over labour weekend - too soon or will it be fine given I vary rpm? OM states avoid prolonged operation above 6900rpm, I take this as don't ride it above this range but ok to accelerate past within reason obviously staying well away from red line, like 9-10k on occasion and letting off and dropping below 6900k, or should I literally stay below the stated rpm? And yes have seen the motorman thread and would in no way follow it to a T.
Low personal B.M.E.P.
1/ It's primarily designed to avoid insurance liability.
2/ It's dumbed down for the worst consumers they'll find (probably Americans...)
3/ It's only their opinion of how their product should be used
4/ This is KB, no one follows manufacturers instructions....
Right, back to building a Laverda gearbox which will change gears reliably - unlike the original designers intentions....
BMW Motorrad
Have you ridden a bike before?
R1 is a great learners bike you'll have fun.
If you can make it on Kiwibiker you can make it anywhere.
L-Plate Rider
Lol cheers... Yes had my fair share over the years including an r1. First new bike though, so probably being a bit paranoid after being hit with the whole brake her in before riding as you would thing
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