MotoGP 2015

[badlieutenant]

Here is the Gif I just made I can't get the official view as MGP has blocked the video for NZ so its a bit fuzzy but its clear were the contact was made and in what order

As I said two contacts he crashes on the second contact foot leaves the pegs . He actually hits Rossi's leg on the second contact as well.

watching this second gif it doesnt look like Rossi pushed Marc until Marc actually tried to ride thru Rossi, then the leg thing looks like Rossi just pushing Marc off.
Nothing in the rules about taking a slow wide line......
I just hope Dani has a fucking awesome year next season with jorge and marc hugging each other as pedrosa dominates his team mate. It will be interesting if the new tyres suit Danis light weight better.

[Autech]

Fuck Rossi n MM. Dani won! Woooooo!
Look out next year, Pedrosa is in good form, if he doesn't injure himself pre season that is...

Other things that went on, great head to head between the Suzuki boys, Aleix just beat the young gun. Bradl in 10th ahead of a satellite Honda! Smith made Crutchlow his bitch!
Eearrrnonee's bike blew up, Dovi chucked it down the road!



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[Shaun Harris]

Did Rossi know he was there? Yes.
Did Rossi slow and block by going off line? Yes.
Did he kick him? Dunno.
Did he nudge him? Nah.

What I do know is you don't lean on someone using you front wheel.

From watching and re watching and re watching, Rossi Did nudge him, ( Accidently) but it was the kind of nudge to say fuk off with his leg, rather than his hand as he was busy at the time. So, he actioned his leg to say fuk off, which in turn made his knee make contact with MM bars causing the crash!

Real big fuk up for all involved, only making things easier for JL now

[Shaun Harris]

watching this second gif it doesnt look like Rossi pushed Marc until Marc actually tried to ride thru Rossi, then the leg thing looks like Rossi just pushing Marc off.
Nothing in the rules about taking a slow wide line......
I just hope Dani has a fucking awesome year next season with jorge and marc hugging each other as pedrosa dominates his team mate. It will be interesting if the new tyres suit Danis light weight better.

This is a great show of what went down. It was not intentional to knock MM down, more of a fuk off action, but it did cause the crash, so VR does deserve the 3 point penalty sadly.

[Shaun Harris]

Since when is baulking someone illegal?
It happens all the time. It is not as if he suddenly changed line. sure it was a block or a baulk but lets be clear he was hit not once but twice not the other way around.

I say MM was riding like a twat

[Shaun Harris]

That's my take too. MM put a couple of pretty dicey passes on Rossi, by dicey I mean close, but that is nothing Rossi hasn't done before.

Honestly, don't know what the fuck to make of all of that. I do know that Lorenzo was going on like a little spoilt princess in the conference. As for Dani Pedrosa...good, fair, balanced comments. My respect for the guy only grows and grows.

Pity for VR and MM. Neither of them really were playing smart. My two favourite riders too...although...Dani now moving up there!

Lorenzo is just a wining bitch Full stop

[Metastable]

I think what happened is pretty clear.

Marquez was riding like an imbecile and just trying to antagonize Rossi... they had touched previously. Check out the video below.

Rossi was doing an off line block pass. Marquez hits Rossi, so Rossi pushes his knee out after that happened, and Marquez went down. I think Marquez should be penalized for his actions as well. He initiated contact on more than one occasion.

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CSJjaN5UAAEXQEp.mp4

If the above one doesn't work, try this:
https://twitter.com/GP_Xtra/

[carbonhed]

This is a great show of what went down. It was not intentional to knock MM down, more of a fuk off action, but it did cause the crash, so VR does deserve the 3 point penalty sadly.

Have you got to see the race yet Shaun? The whole to and fro up to that point was pretty interesting.

[carbonhed]

Yamaha's Lin Jarvis shares his views on the #SepangClash at the Malaysian GP and explains the situation.
Movistar Yamaha’s Managing Director Lin Jarvis gives us his verdict on Race Direction’s decision on the Rossi/Marquez incident at the Shell Malaysian Grand Prix, plus how they plan to appeal:

What’s your reaction to the Penalty against Valentino?
“I think that what happened today, the incident on track was the result of at least a couple of races of fierce competition between Marc Marquez and Valentino Rossi. From the first race in Phillip Island it has led to the accusation the Valentino made the other day about Marc’s attempt to control the race and attempt to influence the Championship and I think that what we saw in the race was the revenge of Marc Marquez towards Valentino’s statements in the media.

So whilst, if you analyse the race in details today and you study every move that Marc did, there was nothing illegal about any single move, but I think you have to see the bigger picture and you have to question the motivation of the style of race and the way and the attempt of Marc to clearly disturb Valentino to the maximum. Finally that resulted in an overflow of frustration by Valentino and that boiled over and he made a move that was an incorrect move by taking Marc out to the side of the track. Then unfortunately Marc deicide to turn in hit the leg, that caused an incident and Marc fell off.

I am very sad that the incident resulted in the crash of another rider. I think that Valentino was found, shall we say, the one in the race that did a manoeuvre that was not legal. This was finally the result and that’s why he was penalised.

He was given a penalty initially of three penalty points, which is you add that together with the one he already has it creates four points which means he will start at the back of the grid in Valencia. So anyway, our job as a team is to defend the interest of our riders, so whilst we cannot deny that Valentino’s move was not the sort of move we want to see in MotoGP at that time. At the same time we feel that the penalty is quite harsh, to give three points when normally Valentino is not a dirty rider. He is not a rider that creates issues and problems for other people, so as a team we appealed to the FIM to the first decision of the Race Direction. Then Valentino was heard by the FIM, then the FIM also consulted Race Direction, then the FUIM also consulted Marc Marquez and Honda and finally after a period of forty-five minutes or something we have the results of the appeal and it’s been rejected.

So the original penalty of three points against Valentino stands and in the appeal process, if you have a decision of Race Direction you can then take an appeal to the FIM steward. If the FIM Steward rejects your appeal and agrees with the original decision, it’s no longer appealable. It’s final, so case closed.”

[onearmedbandit]

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[carbonhed]

I wonder if Rossi had organised a meeting with Lyn Jarvis, Livio Suppo and Marquez on Thursday. Quiet, private and made his concerns known then and there a different outcome might have been achieved.

On reflection I feel kind of cheated out of a great battle.

The whole weekend was a slow motion meltdown for Rossi.

[roogazza]

Yamaha's Lin Jarvis shares his views on the #SepangClash at the Malaysian GP and explains the situation.
Movistar Yamaha’s Managing Director Lin Jarvis gives us his verdict on Race Direction’s decision on the Rossi/Marquez incident at the Shell Malaysian Grand Prix, plus how they plan to appeal:

What’s your reaction to the Penalty against Valentino?
“I think that what happened today, the incident on track was the result of at least a couple of races of fierce competition between Marc Marquez and Valentino Rossi. From the first race in Phillip Island it has led to the accusation the Valentino made the other day about Marc’s attempt to control the race and attempt to influence the Championship and I think that what we saw in the race was the revenge of Marc Marquez towards Valentino’s statements in the media.

So whilst, if you analyse the race in details today and you study every move that Marc did, there was nothing illegal about any single move, but I think you have to see the bigger picture and you have to question the motivation of the style of race and the way and the attempt of Marc to clearly disturb Valentino to the maximum. Finally that resulted in an overflow of frustration by Valentino and that boiled over and he made a move that was an incorrect move by taking Marc out to the side of the track. Then unfortunately Marc deicide to turn in hit the leg, that caused an incident and Marc fell off.

I am very sad that the incident resulted in the crash of another rider. I think that Valentino was found, shall we say, the one in the race that did a manoeuvre that was not legal. This was finally the result and that’s why he was penalised.

He was given a penalty initially of three penalty points, which is you add that together with the one he already has it creates four points which means he will start at the back of the grid in Valencia. So anyway, our job as a team is to defend the interest of our riders, so whilst we cannot deny that Valentino’s move was not the sort of move we want to see in MotoGP at that time. At the same time we feel that the penalty is quite harsh, to give three points when normally Valentino is not a dirty rider. He is not a rider that creates issues and problems for other people, so as a team we appealed to the FIM to the first decision of the Race Direction. Then Valentino was heard by the FIM, then the FIM also consulted Race Direction, then the FUIM also consulted Marc Marquez and Honda and finally after a period of forty-five minutes or something we have the results of the appeal and it’s been rejected.

So the original penalty of three points against Valentino stands and in the appeal process, if you have a decision of Race Direction you can then take an appeal to the FIM steward. If the FIM Steward rejects your appeal and agrees with the original decision, it’s no longer appealable. It’s final, so case closed.”

Pretty fair appraisal there Carbon.
Sad MM went down and even sadder we don't get a better race for the final.
#99 came thru strongly as usual and I thought #46 would have fought harder to hang onto him ?
Not into Titles as much as the racing myself. Points, pah !

But hey Vale won the fight, if not the war ??

[Autech]

I wonder if Rossi had organised a meeting with Lyn Jarvis, Livio Suppo and Marquez on Thursday. Quiet, private and made his concerns known then and there a different outcome might have been achieved.

On reflection I feel kind of cheated out of a great battle.

The whole weekend was a slow motion meltdown for Rossi.

Yup, the whole race has been overshadowed by this yaahoo. We all want Rossi and Lozenger to go at it but MM seems to not want that to happen.
I wonder if the king of Spain got MM and Jlo together and told them to beat ze Italian? The day Pedrosa helps Lorenzo though
The Suzuki boys were going at it for a lot of that race too which would have been great to watch a bit of, two of the most talented riders on the grid having a clean and tidy scrap.

3 times Marquez has attempted to rough up Rossi this season and he's come off 2nd best all 3 times. Who's boss? ROSSI IS BOSS!

[husaberg]

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/224...unishment.html

Mike Webbs explaination
I can see that the FIM is going to sort this eventually.
Why if Mike is as measured in his words as others have said this one sentence is a pretty damming inditement

“Despite what Marquez said we think he was deliberately trying to affect the pace of Valentino.

here is a new one clearer

[badlieutenant]

a portion of race directions comments on the incident
“Despite what Marquez said we think he was deliberately trying to affect the pace of Valentino. However he didn't actually break any rules. Whatever we think about the spirit of the championship, according to the rule book he didn't make contact. His passes were clean. He rode within the rules."
Which does seem to support Rossi's statements regarding marc trying to affect the outcome of the championship, or at least Rossi's chances.
I want to punch Marc's dad in the face. So does the wife. For some reason he is really annoying, like Marcs smile.

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