MotoGP 2015

[Brett]

Seems to me reading this thread that those that have supported Marquez-farings (finally i came up with a nick name for him) will say that Rossi was dirty, those that have supported Rossi over the years will say that Marquez deserved it and that Rossi was just defending himself.

From my view it looked like fault on both sides, race direction and Rossi said MM was altering his pace to continue the battle with Rossi, Rossi warned Marquez prior to the incident with a hand gesture, MM didn't back off so he got taught a lesson from the true master. Seems like all was fair in love and war, Rossi has been penalised bad enough to perhaps cost him the championship. Marquez got punted for his trouble and didn't score any points.

Lets just say next years championship will be very interesting everytime they get near each other. Rossi has ruined careers before, I see him capable of doing the same to MM. He and MM will be fighting for 3rd whilst Dani and Lorenzo check out at the front

That's why I find this one hard. I am a fan-boy of both of them!

[bogan]

He has got his little mate riding shotgun for him. Marquez was doing his level best to stop Rossi having a shot at racing Lorenzo. The championship fight was (is?) between Rossi and Lorenzo but Marquez is going out of his way to stop that happening. Presumably for the greater glory of Spain?

farkoff, that's just hearsay

[ellipsis]

farkoff, that's just hearsay

...and we know what the Spaniards do with hearetics...

[FROSTY:Me]

ANYHOO-what is done is done.--and in a couple of years will be forgotten anyways.The results will be whats remembered.
SOOO whats now needed for VR 46 or JL 99 to win
Ok so difference is 7 points,
1st place = 25 points
2nd place = 20 points
3rd place = 16 points
4th place = 13 points
5th place = 11 points
6th place = 10 points
7th place = 9 points
8th place = 8 points
9th place = 7 points
10th place = 6 points
11th place = 5 points
12th place = 4 points
13th place = 3 points
14th place = 2 points
15th place = 1 points

So Lorenzo wins-Rossi needs second
Lorenzo second Rossi needs third to win and fourth to equal
Lorenzo third Rossi needs 6th to win 7th to draw.
Lorenzo 4th Rossi needs 9th to win and 10th to equal
-if its a draw they will go on race wins to decide it?

So I guess it comes down to will Marquez race to get a Honda 1 2 with Pedro's form and MM's odvious speed its possible.can't rule the ducks out either. Its going to be an interesting end to the season.

[husaberg]

He has got his little mate riding shotgun for him. Marquez was doing his level best to stop Rossi having a shot at racing Lorenzo. The championship fight was (is?) between Rossi and Lorenzo but Marquez is going out of his way to stop that happening. Presumably for the greater glory of Spain?

farkoff, that's just hearsay

You need to do some research Bogan.
Mike webs statement. You know the Mike Webb (MotoGP Race Director) its not hearsay it was in their ruling of events that lead to the crash.
while the motivation for him doing so is at best a presumption, to say it is heresay that he was not trying to effect the pace of the race is utterly wrong.

Despite what Marquez said we think he was deliberately trying to affect the pace of Valentino.Mike Webb

[Autech]

That's why I find this one hard. I am a fan-boy of both of them!

Not me. I supported MM right up till Moto2 when he started doing that dangerous shit (crossing under brakes) and not getting punished for it because of his name.
He only won so easily last year as the only bike up to beating him was being ridden by someone with serious arm pump issues, not due to amazing talent, as he's shown this year an inability to adapt to a challenging bike. Yes he's hell on two wheels, but if he really was so greater rider why all the DNF's? He's just as good as any of the aliens.

Thats my thoughts on MM, brilliant yes, but no more brilliant than the others. He picked a fight with the wrong man yesterday and paid the price. I'm not out and out a Rossi fan either, but would rather him than Lozenger who looks a swarmy git!

[Digitdion]

Mate, you'd complain if the racing was pedestrian. Until Rossi's brain fart, he and MM were having a fantastic ding dong of a scrap. My GF was on the edge of her seat and screaming! And even though she's new to the sport, she thought Rossi was a dirty cunt for that move.

Yes the racing between Rossi and Marquez was awesome to watch. I am not surprised your girlfriend loved it. It was wild. But also irrational so early on in the race. Racing that close to the edge only happens close to the end of the race for a reason. It's way to risky. Marquez (and Lorenzo for that matter) need to stop being spoilt little shits.
I can see why Rossi is pissed off with Marquez.

[Autech]

ANYHOO-what is done is done.--and in a couple of years will be forgotten anyways.The results will be whats remembered.
SOOO whats now needed for VR 46 or JL 99 to win
Ok so difference is 7 points,
1st place = 25 points
2nd place = 20 points
3rd place = 16 points
4th place = 13 points
5th place = 11 points
6th place = 10 points
7th place = 9 points
8th place = 8 points
9th place = 7 points
10th place = 6 points
11th place = 5 points
12th place = 4 points
13th place = 3 points
14th place = 2 points
15th place = 1 points

So Lorenzo wins-Rossi needs second
Lorenzo second Rossi needs third to win and fourth to equal
Lorenzo third Rossi needs 6th to win 7th to draw.
Lorenzo 4th Rossi needs 9th to win and 10th to equal
-if its a draw they will go on race wins to decide it?

So I guess it comes down to will Marquez race to get a Honda 1 2 with Pedro's form and MM's odvious speed its possible.can't rule the ducks out either. Its going to be an interesting end to the season.

Yup if Dani and Marc lock down the front two spots rossi will win I think as he should be able to get a 6th ahead of the competition, any higher might be a big ask from the back of the grid. Will Marquez play ball after yesterday though? I probably wouldn't!
That and Lorenzo is guaranteed to be on pace, he's been brilliant all season so I don't see him settling for 2nd without a big fight with one of the Honda boys.

[Digitdion]

Yup if Dani and Marc lock down the front two spots rossi will win I think as he should be able to get a 6th ahead of the competition, any higher might be a big ask from the back of the grid. Will Marquez play ball after yesterday though? I probably wouldn't!
That and Lorenzo is guaranteed to be on pace, he's been brilliant all season so I don't see him settling for 2nd without a big fight with one of the Honda boys.

So we need someone to take out Lorenzo!

[Autech]

Just check, Lorenzo has DNF'd there a few times over a past few years with both Marquez and Pedrosa doing well.

So I'm going to be getting up to watch it live I think!

FIREWORKS!

[Brett]

So we need someone to take out Lorenzo!

Stranger things have happened. However, Jorge is an intelligent rider with some serious talent. Whining being one of them. He has an ability to ride hard, manage gaps well and responds well under pressure. I think that he is going to be supremely focused at Valencia and is going to be a difficult rival for Rossi.

[Brett]

Just check, Lorenzo has DNF'd there a few times over a past few years with both Marquez and Pedrosa doing well.

So I'm going to be getting up to watch it live I think!

FIREWORKS!

As stated before, rain would help Rossi. Will make it a shitty wet day for me sitting in the stands with a 3 month old and 2.5 year old...but oh well!!

[carbonhed]

As stated before, rain would help Rossi. Will make it a shitty wet day for me sitting in the stands with a 3 month old and 2.5 year old...but oh well!!

Well you'll see history being made that's for sure. In the eye of the storm. Cool.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yes the racing between Rossi and Marquez was awesome to watch. I am not surprised your girlfriend loved it. It was wild. But also irrational so early on in the race. Racing that close to the edge only happens close to the end of the race for a reason. It's way to risky. .

WTF are you talking about man? Phillip Island mean anything to you? Some of THE most epic races have gone down there for every single fucking lap! Make the most of it.

[Rcktfsh]

Speaking of which, once it was over, how come he pussied out of the press conference? If he'd come out, manned up and said it was a silly move, heat of the moment, frustration, etc, and apologised; I'd still be rooting for him next round. As it is, fuck the championship, go Danni!

I noted yesterday before the stewards meeting that I was expecting a wet bus ticket at worst from the race director, but his explanation of the penalty is actually pretty well balanced, so well played.
Just that I recall Simo getting a black flag and the subsequent ride-through at Le Mans for cutting Dani's nose off (but not causing a crash) in a tight battle. Also there has been no mention of the penalty for missing a post-race press conference, they are normally pretty hot on missing that kind of PR propaganda spouting opportunity.

Got your message Oscar, good one !

Think you'll find the reason Rossi missed the press conference was due to him being in the Stewards room.