MotoGP 2015

[trustme]

This wee drama hasn't done Moto GP any harm. For the first time ever I feel like watching the GP live. No doubt along with several million other people.

I'll reserve judgement. I think viewing will peak in the short term. Will sponsors & viewers remain loyal ? ask Lorenzo.

[sidecar bob]

I'll reserve judgement. I think viewing will peak in the short term. Will sponsors & viewers remain loyal ? ask Lorenzo.

Agreed, I'm very interested in this next GP, from there on remains to be seen.

[Reckless]

Told ya theyd move to fix this for next year with new rules and they've also given the riders a warning.

It says "Get your fucken shit together or you'll loose the input you have and we'll make the rules in future".

Off the GP site

At the Valencia GP on Thursday the Permanent Bureau of the FIM MotoGP™ World Championship addressed the MotoGP™ riders.
Following the events that occurred at the Malaysian Grand Prix and further developments over the following week and given the exceptional circumstances, the Permanent Bureau of the FIM MotoGP™ World Championship, comprising of Messrs Vito Ippolito, FIM President, and Carmelo Ezpeleta, Chief Executive Officer of Dorna Sports, summoned all MotoGP™ riders and their respective team managers to address the situation on Thursday 5th November at 15.30 local time. This is the official statement from the meeting:

“First and foremost, sport must prevail. This Sunday is the last race of the year, and it is sport that needs to win.

We are proud of the magnificent races you have given us this year. They continue to foster interest in our championship all around the world. We also want to thank you for that.

Over the past days, there have unfortunately been some controversies that have surpassed the limits of a healthy passion and, on occasions, logic itself. You have millions of followers all around the world. They watch and admire your achievements on the track. And they also listen closely to what you say.

What you do and say could have consequences that are not in keeping with the noble values of our sport.

In the name of the Permanent Bureau, the FIM and the promoter, Dorna, I would like to remind you that we are the only sporting organisation in the world that draws up its regulations for one of its flagship Championships with the agreement of all parties. That is the role of the Grand Prix Commission, where the FIM, Dorna, MSMA and IRTA are all represented. We know that the rules can always be improved, and having said that, I repeat that every change will be made with the consent of those concerned. In addition to the GP Commission, we have also set up the Safety Commission, in which riders are consulted on a regular basis about safety issues. Here too we are pioneers in the world of motor sport.

Once again, we want you to be aware that we intend to pursue our policy of keeping the doors open in order to hear your opinions and to allow you to contribute to making this great Championship even better. We would like to emphasise, that for next year, some changes will be made to prevent this from happening again.

We also want to remind you of the values of our sport: exemplarity, fair play, sportsmanship and courtesy. Our officials will be vigilant in observing the fair play and sporting behaviour of every one of you and will be very strict with any infringement of our sporting rules.

We must remember that we organise and practice sport at the professional level, not only because it is entertaining and extraordinary but also to showcase the values we believe in. The next race will be broadcast live and followed by a very large number of spectators. We therefore have ahead of us a golden opportunity to demonstrate to the world the highest values of our sport, and in so doing, to set a great example. We would also like to assure everybody that this weekend we will pay even more attention to what occurs on the track for the benefit of the sport.

Thank you all and have a good race!”

[carbonhed]

Well... my favourite is Lorenzo so good luck dude.

Second favourite was Rossi... you can cram that up your arse dipshit.

New favourite is Marquez. Slandered without a skerric of evidence delivered... kill them all mate.

Go Dani!

[Berries]

Well... my favourite is Lorenzo so good luck dude.

Second favourite was Rossi... you can cram that up your arse dipshit.

Would never have guessed that. You froth at the mouth even more than Crasher does when it comes to him.

[mulletman]

Good save from MM during FP1 , one of those lost it moments cranked over , slide , elbow on deck holding the ship up then some power and back off the deck and away.
Dunno how many saves he's had like this.

[pritch]

Slandered without a skerric of evidence delivered...

None so blind as those who will not see. Race Direction saw it, and there are some very good explanations of what happened by analysis of lap times, but never mind all that...

And bad news for Rossi. All the Hondas are overheating front tyres, the riders want different tyres. Not much chance of that?

It's reported that in FP2 Rossi went out four times. The assumption is that he was finding out how hard he can push on cold tyres. That'd make sense.

And that was another amazing save by Marquez.

[roogazza]

https://motomatters.com/results/2015...s_lorenzo.html

Just fp2 but..... Hoping Hondas get a one /two here........

[carbonhed]

and there are some very good explanations of what happened by analysis of lap times

Link? Because I'd be really interested in that.

[Reckless]

Wonderful explanation for the Aficionados

Hope you can access the link??

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2015...he-rear/189204

[Reckless]

Last post have to go do some more work but looks like Rossi is workin n it!!

With the tyre wear issue and the practice times looks like Lozenge may be a good bet for 1st, although he suffers greatly from tyre wear in the dying stages to, ( I just contradicted myself big time there LOL) so it might mean its second or nothing for Rossi. Who knows LOL
I'm Hoping Rossi can stick it right up Lozenges arse just because of the way he has portrayed himself over the last days!!

Anyway for those that dont have GP subscriptions

With the CAS rejecting Valentino Rossi's appeal, many assumed he’d focus exclusively on race pace during practice. But has he?
Throughout his career, and especially in recent years with the change to the 15 minute shootout sessions, Valentino Rossi has had great difficult in qualifying. The Movistar Yamaha rider has often had to spend extra time to find a qualifying setting, with the three point penalty from Sepang Rossi no longer has to worry about Qualifying. Many suspected that with the ‘burden’ of Qualifying removed Rossi would be able to focus all of his efforts on a setting for the race, able to charge through the field with ease.

One sign of working on race setting during practice session is many laps in succession. During FP1, Rossi did a total of 21 laps, his first run consisting of 15 laps without a break. Marc Marquez’s (Repsol Honda) first run during FP1 consisted of 13 laps. Rossi’s unbroken 15 lap run was the longest of any MotoGP™ rider in the first session, and the second longest of the day overall.

When asked if he had changed strategy, Rossi responded: “No, seriously no. Very similar to usual. I have to say when I ride I am more relaxed than usual! I’m quite happy about the first practices. This morning my pace wasn’t so bad and I was competitive on used tyres. We tried something different in the afternoon that improved my lap times. I used the hard tyres and I wasn’t so bad, then I put the soft for a comparison to make the right choice for the race.”

In Phillip Island for FP1 Rossi completed 16 laps, in Motegi 19. But both of those circuits are much longer than the 4 kilometre Ricardo Tormo Circuit. In Misano, a circuit that is 4.2 kilometres long, Rossi also set 21 laps in FP1 but did so over three runs of seven laps each. Despite what he says, it seems that Rossi’s approach has changed from the norm, as he no longer has to worry about a grid position and is putting in longer runs.

During FP2 Rossi opted for a series of shorter runs, focusing more on changing the setup of his Movistar Yamaha M1. In both sessions Rossi was able to lap in the mid to low 1’32s with ease, matching the likes of Jorge Lorenzo and Marc Marquez at the top of the time sheets. Ending the day in fifth provisionally sees Rossi advance directly into Q2, The Doctor could use this 15 minute shootout session as yet more time devote to race pace: “Now we have to decide the strategy. It’s tough to use the 15 minutes of Qualifying like Free Practice because there are still other riders on track and maybe going slower as they are waiting for a tow. I think it’s going to be hard and I’ll try to make the normal procedure,” he said after FP2.

While there hasn’t been an overly dramatic shift in how he goes about a weekend, it is clear that Rossi is making the best of his situation. Most of the Open riders were only able to produce low 1’32s as their fastest single flying lap. There’s little doubt that based just on race pace Rossi should be able to pass a number of riders in the opening laps. With a strong race pace and a seven point championship lead, the 2015 title is far from over for The Doctor.

[carbonhed]

Wonderful explanation for the Aficionados

Hope you can access the link??

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2015...he-rear/189204

Brilliant.

[pritch]

Link? Because I'd be really interested in that.

Nah, there was a good lap by lap description in the last couple of days but I'm not going back through a coupla thousand Twitter messages trying to find the link.

The explanation Race Direction gave to Crash.net has been linked to in this thread, or you could go there direct. RD said Marquez denied just mucking Rossi about but RD, having examined the video and the lap times, said they did not believe him.

To say he was accused with no evidence is completely wrong, there was evidence and he was found guilty. It's just that there's nothing in the rules about fucking other riders around.

[schrodingers cat]

Some should ask Carl Forgety for an opinion.
I'd get out of bed in the small hours to hear his view on dealing with riders playing silly buggars

[husaberg]

Nah, there was a good lap by lap description in the last couple of days but I'm not going back through a coupla thousand Twitter messages trying to find the link.

The explanation Race Direction gave to Crash.net has been linked to in this thread, or you could go there direct. RD said Marquez denied just mucking Rossi about but RD, having examined the video and the lap times, said they did not believe him.

To say he was accused with no evidence is completely wrong, there was evidence and he was found guilty. It's just that there's nothing in the rules about fucking other riders around.

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/224...unishment.html

Mike Webbs explaination
I can see that the FIM is going to sort this eventually.
Why if Mike is as measured in his words as others have said this one sentence is a pretty damming inditement

here is a new one clearer

“I'm not going to quote what the riders said in the hearing but I can give you a general idea,” Webb began. “So from what we saw it would appear to be a deliberate move on Rossi's part to push Marquez off the track, or push him wide.

“We heard from both riders. Marquez told us that he was just riding his normal race and minding his own business, making passes on Valentino without contact. Which is true. And that he had no intention of disturbing Valentino.

“Valentino on the other side said it was clear to him that Marc was deliberately slowing down the pace and making it difficult for Valentino to race. That he deliberately ran wide in the turn in order to give himself an advantage in order to get away from Marquez.

“Finally, we actually believe there is fault on both sides.

“Despite what Marquez said we think he was deliberately trying to affect the pace of Valentino. However he didn't actually break any rules. Whatever we think about the spirit of the championship, according to the rule book he didn't make contact. His passes were clean. He rode within the rules.