Reasons to be cheerful

**husaberg** · 18th December 2015, 21:32

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Which has nothing to do with the validity of the data.
No I'm not.
The fact that the numbers are quoted by stuff doesn't automatically change them from true to "spun".

Good to agree that neither of us have issues with the report showing real numerical reasons to be cheerful.

You said the story came from the UN it did not..........you even tried to suggest Auntie Helen........
it did not though, how do you think puff pieces like that come to be in the papers and media?
Tell me was it on Whale oil as well.....................

**Oakie** · 18th December 2015, 22:15

Reasons to be cheerful? My grandaughters arrive tomorrow for Xmas and little Miss 9 years old is going to have her first proper ride (out of our street) on the back of Poppa's bike ... and she doesn't know it yet.

**98tls** · 18th December 2015, 22:21

Originally Posted by Oakie

Reasons to be cheerful? My grandaughters arrive tomorrow for Xmas and little Miss 9 years old is going to have her first proper ride (out of our street) on the back of Poppa's bike ... and she doesn't know it yet.

Nice..enjoy.Have been told when i was a little un ie still in nappies

the old man used to put some goggles round my head and stuff me down his swanny then off for a ride,dont remember it but guess i enjoyed it.Little Miss 9 year old may well get to hinting of a bike of her own when Santa next visits....

**Oakie** · 19th December 2015, 07:55

Originally Posted by 98tls

.Little Miss 9 year old may well get to hinting of a bike of her own when Santa next visits....

Knowing her, she'll just ask for my keys and go ...

Foregone conclusion she'd be a biker really. She had her first ride up and down the drive aged 6 weeks with her car seat bungeed to the packrack and hasn't stopped since then.

**Ocean1** · 19th December 2015, 08:16

Originally Posted by husaberg

You said the story came from the UN it did not..........you even tried to suggest Auntie Helen........
it did not though, how do you think puff pieces like that come to be in the papers and media?
Tell me was it on Whale oil as well.....................

The REPORT is the product of the UN. Of which Auntie Helen is a member, and who was quoted in the article.

You didn't actually read the article, did you?

**Ocean1** · 19th December 2015, 08:17

Originally Posted by Oakie

Reasons to be cheerful? My grandaughters arrive tomorrow for Xmas and little Miss 9 years old is going to have her first proper ride (out of our street) on the back of Poppa's bike ... and she doesn't know it yet.

Excellent. Make pictures. I always forget the pictures.

**husaberg** · 19th December 2015, 11:07

Originally Posted by Ocean1

The REPORT is the product of the UN. Of which Auntie Helen is a member, and who was quoted in the article.

You didn't actually read the article, did you?

I did in fact, but as I have clearly stated the article was a puff piece derived from selected information in the report.

**Moi** · 19th December 2015, 11:20

Originally Posted by Oakie

Knowing her, she'll just ask for my keys and go ...

Foregone conclusion she'd be a biker really. She had her first ride up and down the drive aged 6 weeks with her car seat bungeed to the packrack and hasn't stopped since then.

OK, so who had the bigger smile? Granddad or Miss 9-YearOld?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 19th December 2015, 12:26

doh double post

**HenryDorsetCase** · 19th December 2015, 12:31

Reasons to be cheerful:

My new job is great. Shit from my old job will sort itself out one way or another, in time.

I love the trackday.

I get two weeks off in a few days where I dont HAVE to do ANYTHING except whatever the fuck I want... SWMBO is working except stat days so if i want to lie about in bed till midday I can, lie about and read I can, lie about and listen to music I can, lie about and take a nap I can.

Motorbike is going great and I intend to do a few day rides (not just Akaroa GP).

We are in a position this year to pay Christmas bonuses so I can make my workmates happy.

Yeah, life's good.

**Oakie** · 19th December 2015, 12:34

Originally Posted by Moi

OK, so who had the bigger smile? Granddad or Miss 9-YearOld?

Guaranteed to be Miss 9 YearOld. Grandad will be too worried about making it home safely with precious cargo intact less he incur the wrath of Miss 9 YearOld's mother and Grandmother.

**Ocean1** · 19th December 2015, 12:38

Originally Posted by husaberg

I did in fact, but as I have clearly stated the article was a puff piece derived from selected information in the report.

A puff piece. Are you serious? Did you read the report to compare the article's content? If there was any "puff" involved it was the fact that the article picked up on Clarke's negative narative, which wasn't part of the report at all.

The report, tainted by the UN's socialist agenda as it is, (this is the crowd that defines "poor" as those earning less than 60% of the national mean) is nonetheless seriously impressed with global performance:

Over the past two decades, the world has made major strides in human development. Today, people are living longer, more children are going to school and more people have access to clean water and basic sanitation.

Since 1990, 2 billion people have been lifted out of low human development, extreme income poverty has been reduced by more than a billion. Every region of the world has seen Human Development Index (HDI) gains.

As a matter of interest I've been checking on some independent sources of opinion about NZ quality of life:

http://www.mercer.com/newsroom/2014-...#city-rankings
https://expatexplorer.hsbc.com/survey/
http://www.workingin-newzealand.com/...n#.VnSf_fl96M8
http://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-lif...ry=New+Zealand
http://www.enz.org/shades-of-new-zealand.html

Which does include a fair bit of negative feedback. Mostly to do with the cost of shit:

The price gouging Kiwis are subjected to. Even taking in to consideration shipping costs and a smaller market, I still don’t feel that 3x the cost of the same item/brand compared to the US market is justifiable. Cosmetics, glasses, contact lenses solution, and books are the things that have most recently irked me.

A phenomena that's annoyed and puzzled most Kiwis for decades, but while there's no reason to be cheerful about the trade barriers that cause that it hardly compares to improvements for 2 billion actual poor over the last few years in that regard.