Cancer and the drug companies

[husaberg]

Wouldn't it be preferable to have a Global Healthcare System that focused on wellness rather than making money?

The term Big Pharma is used to refer collectively to global pharmaceutical industry......

[scumdog]

Wouldn't it be preferable to have a Global Healthcare System that focused on wellness rather than making money?

Sure it would - but who would pay for it?
Drug companies ain't Mother Theresa, they're just like any other commercial industry, out to make money, if somebody else can come up with a cheaper (read: make less profit) drug? - more power to them.

[Katman]

Sure it would - but who would pay for it?

There's a shit load of cures out there that cost fuck all.

We've just been duped into believing in the expensive ones.

[J.A.W.]

There's a shit load of cures out there that cost fuck all.

We've just been duped into believing in the expensive ones.

For example, Aspirin - its been around for over a century, & is off patent, so dirt cheap..

& this means that Aspirin's cancer preventative abilities were only discovered coincidentally, since dedicated research funding was
unlikely to be granted on such a product, esp, by drug companies, as no major profit was pending - as an outcome.

Likewise the lack of overall coordination/oversight in the direction of cancer prevention & treatment is simply scandalous, for a 'scientific' process..
Does 'money' trump public health? Well - with cancer it seems so, & it mainly afflicts old people, who've gotta die of something, anyhow..

Funnily enough, the Germans in the `30s, ( yeah Adolf's mob) were the 1st to show that smoking caused cancer & ban it in Gov't buildings..
This research was available to the rest of the world too, of course, but the US Gov't didn't start issuing even mild warnings about it - 'til decades later..

[mashman]

Drug companies ain't Mother Theresa, they're just like any other commercial industry, out to make money, if somebody else can come up with a cheaper (read: make less profit) drug? - more power to them.

True, they're not Mother Teresa. It's not the cost of the drug being produced that's the problem, it's the cost of developing new drugs that makes the current drug expensive. Stupid way to do business like, but meh .

[Katman]

Stupid way to do business like, but meh .

The only reason they get away with it is because so many are too stupid to see what's going on.

[TheDemonLord]

Wouldn't it be preferable to have a Global Healthcare System that focused on wellness rather than making money?

No, because Idiots like you would come up with all manner conspiracy theories about it if it existed....

[TheDemonLord]

The only reason they get away with it is because so many are too stupid to see what's going on.

So you are going to get a PhD in Biology/Chemistry and are going to come up witg a faster and cheaper way to find cures then?

Off you go.

Let me know how you get on.

[Woodman]

True, they're not Mother Teresa. It's not the cost of the drug being produced that's the problem, it's the cost of developing new drugs that makes the current drug expensive. Stupid way to do business like, but meh .

Do you think research and development costs aren't included in the price of all products then?

[Katman]

Do you think research and development costs aren't included in the price of all products then?

Hey, drugs don't invent themselves.

[Katman]

There are all manner of natural remedies for ailments that should be getting adequate funding and promotion.

But they can't be patented.

So no-one's interested.

[Woodman]

Hey, drugs don't invent themselves.

exactly.......

[Katman]

exactly.......

And that's precisely the problem.

We don't need 'invented' drugs - we need to fully explore what we have available naturally.

[bogan]

Sure it would - but who would pay for it?
Drug companies ain't Mother Theresa, they're just like any other commercial industry, out to make money, if somebody else can come up with a cheaper (read: make less profit) drug? - more power to them.

Yeh, but the bit where it gets tricky is patents and IP. Govts struggle to balance that part of things to make a competitive playing field.

In saying that, it often boils down to the question of entitlement. Just because a cure exists, is one entitled to it?

[bogan]

And that's precisely the problem.

We don't need 'invented' drugs - we need to fully explore what we have available naturally.

Have you even been to a naturopath?