To be fair, the driver may have seen the bike and thought it had been in a crash already.
To be fair, the driver may have seen the bike and thought it had been in a crash already.
Previous bikes have been dominantly black.
Ducati is, well Ducati red.
Early days but I appear to have had less 'opps' occasions on the red one.
Hi-Viz black is the only option that works.
Gay faggotry cuntflap shit like yellow/orange/pink is for spastics.
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Either:
Mo-fo loud Harley and gang patch on your leathers
or
Police colours and gear.
Car drivers appear to see both of the above every time. The rest of us and road fodder.
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IMHO the most effective "See Me" protective gear are the silver reflective bands on jackets when picked up by headlights at night. These do stand out.
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How effective are they when a car pulls out of a side road when the sun is out like the OP?
This whole hi-viz/lights on thing is a crock of shit if you ask me. It gives the user a false sense of security and then suddenly hey presto they are so surprised when someone pulls out on them they have to run home and tell the world about it.
Agree with you here Pete, will never know those who sees it and think OK a bike or a cop. I wear vis on longer trips when I know I will tire and my wet gear is Fluro. I've also seen riders who don't notice the marked cop car or bike as the speed off too so not restricted to cage dwellers.
Am considering a slow phasing strobe like the trains from low to high beam because you get lost in all of the car daytime running lights when filtering in traffic even with high beams on. Just something to break up the pattern.
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Its not the holy grail of safety measures by any means and more and more people use it, the less effective it will become.
Its just another thing riders can do that may help them, it shouldn't become compulsory, but knowing the PC brigade it most likely will....
awa355 "IMHO the most effective "See Me" protective gear are the silver reflective bands on jackets when picked up by headlights at night. These do stand out. "
If you read AWA's little note its about at night, the jacket doesn't really standout at all, as you say because there is little light. The silver parts can shine up - these are the bits which are reflective.
On one of my bikes the lights shine on me and pickup those bands.
Most often I ride with the HiVis jacket undone, it flaps about and makes it more noticeable - Motorbikes appear to be far away and almost stationary when approaching a vehicle - a done up jacket blends in as you say and isn't very effective in low light, a flapping jacket grabs people attention.
This wont help if the sun is behind you as you approach someone pulling out, the just wont see you.
As you say they are worthless in this condition, we have to ride to the conditions and EXPECT someone to pull out, even if it means breaking the law to protect ourselves - its your life to protect. Don't expect anyone else to do it.
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Not so slow perhaps, but kits are available. A previous thread hereabout, however, indicated that use of such in Godzone was illegal. Research would be required.
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As a forklift driver at times I have the pleasure of trying to see everything at once. I recently did a stint at a cherry packhouse....those who wore hi vis vests on the floor were more noticeable to me in my peripherial vision than those that didnt....Hi vis helps, but only if they are looking out for you.
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