Glad I didn't overtake!

[russd7]

Physics states quite clearly that this is absolutely untrue.

personally have never heard of anyone that has died from excessive speed on the road, coming to an abrupt halt has done it to a few tho. as for the add that appears to lay the blame on a guy going a few KMs over the posted limit rather than the guy who pulled out of the intersection

[russd7]

You are dicing with death attempting a multivehicle overtake on a bike anyway as if any of the cars in front decide to overtake without seeing you coming up behind you will get hit.

ffs do you never actually ride, i do multi vehicle pass on most rides, yes i have had cars come out on me, most times i can slow up a little and tuck in behind but a couple of times i have been three abreast but never has it ever been close to being hit because i have seen what is happening and taken action either slowing down a little or gunning it and changing road position.
i have also twice this year already had oncoming traffic pull out to pass and have had to take evasive action buy scrubbing speed off and changing road position, i tend to ride with my eyes open so i can see what is happening around.

ahhh fuck i have just been trolled haven't I

[granstar]

Always been cautious to ensure plenty of distance in front and behind with passing truck and trailer units or rows traffic since an incident (unexpected lesson) years ago.
Was passing a t and t unit when the bike started to miss badly and a bit of evasiveness needed to keep safe before a head on. Plug leads had rattled out of the coils, and the fix was a tube of silicone, a later fix was buy a modern bike.

But yep agree you need to be situationaly alert with any passing maneuver and read the road and traffic movement ahead and close. Good idea to suss out ahead of the vehicle intending to pass for unexpected like wind gust, tractors etc, if it's clear and room to get in safely why not go?
With my super powers I can predict that any traffic in front, are dickheads and so vigilantly watch for signs of any pulling out when passing, as then as well any dumb shit who pulls out to try to pass from behind when you have already indicated and started the move i.e a pre-planned escape route. Patience is a good thing.

[Berries]

You are dicing with death attempting a multivehicle overtake on a bike anyway as if any of the cars in front decide to overtake without seeing you coming up behind you will get hit.

Not if you ride with your eyes open and your brain engaged, something you really don't seem to be able to comprehend.

[Banditbandit]

So are you saying then that all the guys who die on multivehicle overtaking group rides only do so because they ride with their eyes closed?

Yes - and brain disengaged ...

[PrincessBandit]

Multi vehicle overtaking is just like any other risk - the level of risk varies situation to situation. If you can't be aware of your bubble and focus only on the blinkered tunnel in front of you you're not going to last long - whether multi car overtaking or not.

[Banditbandit]

I would say their eyes are very much open and brain focussed but only on trying to keep up.

Yeah .. "trying to keep up" is one of the things I would put under "brain disengaged" ... that's just stupid .. not worth the risk ..

[baffa]

Speed Kills

Physics states quite clearly that this is absolutely untrue.

I think you'll find that Physics demonstrates quite clearly how momentum and energy have a serious relationship with speed.

What you may have meant is physical speed is a very small factor, when allowing for accelleration, grip, road surface, conditions, attentiveness, colour of underwear etc.



(Proving you wrong to prove you right since 1983)

[swbarnett]

I think you'll find that Physics demonstrates quite clearly how momentum and energy have a serious relationship with speed.

What you may have meant is physical speed is a very small factor, when allowing for accelleration, grip, road surface, conditions, attentiveness, colour of underwear etc.



(Proving you wrong to prove you right since 1983)

What I meant is that a constant speed is quite safe. There's a number of astronauts that can attest to that after a few earth orbits.

What kills is a rapid acceleration greater that the body can withstand.

[PrincessBandit]

The risk increases with the number of vehicles you are trying to pass though as more of your time is spent on the other side of the road. That is the point I am trying to get across.

I'm sure even the idiots here understand that the longer you spend in the oncoming lane the greater the chance you'll meet something comin' at ya'.
On the other hand if you can see the way is clear for a long way then you're all good No risk if the lane is long, straight and clear. Make that "minimal" risk if the lane is long, straight and clear.

[Banditbandit]

The risk increases with the number of vehicles you are trying to pass though as more of your time is spent on the other side of the road. That is the point I am trying to get across.

Yes that is true. How does that change things?

[scumdog]

I'm sure even the idiots here understand that the longer you spend in the oncoming lane the greater the chance you'll meet something comin' at ya'.
On the other hand if you can see the way is clear for a long way then you're all good No risk if the lane is long, straight and clear. Make that "minimal" risk if the lane is long, straight and clear.

....with no driveways or gates on either side.

[Kornholio]

....with no driveways or gates on either side.

...with hedges and/or tree-lines.

[PrincessBandit]

....with no driveways or gates on either side.

Must admit my thinking was more along the lines of highways or stretches of road without gates or drive ways. My brain doesn't comprehend why people would multi-pass in residential areas (which often have speed restrictions - and multi-overtaking often requires, ahem, greater than the speed limit to do).

[FJRider]

...with hedges and/or tree-lines.

I've seen plenty who have pulled out (turning left) on to a street/highway from a driveway (often their own) ... and not looking for traffic on their left. Only checking to their right.

How many people here do/have done exactly that from their own driveway ... ?? (City OR rural)

As always ... to be seen on the wrong side of the road/street .. they have to look for you there.