Forgive me if this question keeps getting asked. But what is the best fuel to use for a 1200 Bandit 2005 model. I would've thought 95.
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Forgive me if this question keeps getting asked. But what is the best fuel to use for a 1200 Bandit 2005 model. I would've thought 95.
Fair weather rider
yep, 95 or 98. never use Ethanol fuel mixtures in any bike.
Forum whore
I would have thought being a jap bike it would be fine on 91.
I run what ever petrol I can get in the HD and have never had a fuel problem or a noticeable reduction in power, but then what would I know about fuel!
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BMW Motorrad
Diesel. Oh wait, you don't ride a harley.
I've always thought higher octane gas is beneficial for high compression performance engines (e.g. 13:1). For a regular bikes with ratio around 10:1 I'd just put 91.
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BrendonF
never use Ethanol fuel mixtures in any bike
Completely disagree - when ethanol mixed fuels arrived in NZ I specifically checked with Suzuki NZ to see if my street legal DRZ250K7 was OK to use the mixes - specifically Gull 98 with 10% ethanol. Their answer an unequivocal YES.
And both of my 650 Honda's actually run better with reduced fuel consumption when I use the regular 91 Gull fuel which has 3% ethanol in it sometimes when compared with non blended 91 octane. And with one of the Hondas now having more than 130,000km on the odometer I haven't had any fuel related (or any other for that matter) problems with it.
Fuel with ethanol in it is not suitable for some motorcycles but the statement that it is never to be used in any motorcycle ever is simply wrong. If you are not sure on the suitability then check with either the manufacturer or the distributor. Most manufacturer's motorcycle owners manuals actually specify the best fuel to be used for your bike so why not find the book and actually read it.
Forum whore
Go with what Mr Suzuki recommends. From memory the air/oil cooled Suzi would prefer 95, but just look on the plate with the technical guff near the steering head.
Even if you run 91 when it wants 95, the bike will cope.
As for don't run ethanol blends...that might be valid if you're still getting around on something that should've been in a museum by now
Forum whore
if you do not have the original manual there are probably places on the interweb where you can read it. My 2014 1250 manual says 91 and I am quite happy to run it. Fuel is funny. In my head the bike doesnt run as sweetly on Caltex fuel. Also in my head is the understanding that is probably complete bollocks, how would I be able to tell the difference between brands.
I now await a series of replies to tell me how I am wrong
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Fair weather rider
Not sure about NZ Ethanol as it sounds like its only 3%, AUS is 10% and has ruined a number of bikes. I have seen gummed up fuel injectors and fuel lines from Aus ethanol. Maybe better here as I only arrived in Oct last year, but I am not willing to try it on my bike. Interesting that in a recent Aus bike write up it stated that BMW and HD are the only two brands that are actually rated to take Ethanol. As ethanol has been widely used in the states and is hard to get normal fuels there. A lot of riders have had problems with there fuel systems, be it injected or carbs. 91 is ok, but I would not recommend it if your bike doesn't have knock sensors. Pretty much every bike I have owned (BMW, Honda, Yamaha, Aprilia etc) have all stated min 95 ron. One of my Aprilia's has a massive warning sticker on the fuel cap stating min 95 with a big !. I have run a couple of tanks of 91 in my current BMW K1200S and it did not like it.Originally Posted by MarkW
Forum whore
Anecdotal stuff from the sidelines. When the 98 first arrived, BP & Mobil, the apparently high detergent action of the fuel resulted in blocked filters etc. Nothing wrong with the fuel itself, it's just trying to clean gunk from the fuel system. Use it from the get-go and this problem will never show. So in "older bikes" unless you're getting leakage from perished seals that aren't ethanol compatible, the above might be the main complaint, at least as far as I can make out.
Bit like the diesel contamination we had in the early 2000's. For most who had modern(ish) equipment and were up to date with their R & M, it was hardly a problem. But if you had a crap jap import diesel that was well overdue for some TLC, you were soon stationary...
Hardcore Biker
Gull 91 does not have any ethanol, but their 98 is E10. At one stage, Gull were adding NZ butane to the 91 to reduce the excise duty. This was deemed illegal, so I expect it's now fully imported.
I've used Gull 98 in a number of vehicles and never had a problem. I'm not using it in the R1 though, given that it's carbed and the rubber bits are now 17 years old.
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Seen an HD running on 50/50 diesel/91, smoked a bit , slightly down on power, but made it from Ngaruawahia to Boyds
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Nana
All 3 of my Suzuki bikes stated they were compatible with up to 10%.
They all also ran a bit rough on the first half of the first tank of Gull (from Rosebank road) after using competitor fuel.
They all also got slightly better miles from the second tank onward.
For some reason the DR350 exhaust smells like whisky after a fang though.
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Careful, gull fuel with 3% ethanol is very different from e85 (85% ethanol).
e85 has a completely different stoichiometric air-fuel ratio (say that 10 times fast), your carbs/ECU will need to be retuned.
It is possible, even likely that bikes will start shipping with flex fuel/multi fuel, this is a sensor that works out if any ethanol is present in the fuel and makes corrections as such.
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