NZTA approved route for Porirua? (CBTA full licence assessment)

[Akzle]

Right or wrong, here's the standard.

If you exceed any limit by more than 10 kmh, fail.

If you exceed any limit by more than 5 kmh for longer than 5 seconds, fail.

If you had done a Ride Forever course, you would have known that.

you do it differently down there. or its changed.
last time I cared for licensing i was told "we're not the police, there is no 'tolerance' for speeding" (FYI i was apparently competent enough to get said license....


...then i realised it was a crock of shit and threw it out, haven't used it since)

[rastuscat]

you do it differently down there. or its changed.
last time I cared for licensing i was told "we're not the police, there is no 'tolerance' for speeding" (FYI i was apparently competent enough to get said license....


...then i realised it was a crock of shit and threw it out, haven't used it since)

Hey AZ Kill

It's the standard. I recently did the training course.

Standards get applied differently by different examiners, but it's still the standard.

[TheDemonLord]

Pretty much echoing what Rastus said.

The guidelines for the CBTA are easily available online. I read them and made some mental notes before I took both my restricted and full both with the excellent Dawn (QkChick) from RiderTraining.co.nz (plug plug plug).

I too commute daily and didn't take any form of extra course prior - and I passed.

If you had done your homework properly, and stuck to the rules, you would have passed.

[Mike.Gayner]

The instructor asked me what course I did to prepare, when I said I did not do any he said there is only a 50% chance of passing.

Yeah, you answered wrong. These instructors all sell courses - they want you to do their $200 course before you sit the test. You should have told him you already did the course in another city (e.g. not with one of his competitors).

[RGVforme]

I failed the assessment for speeding I blame it on the heavy traffic, I went with the flow.
The instructor asked me what course I did to prepare, when I said I did not do any he said there is only a 50% chance of passing.
I commute 40km every day, rain or shine so I thought I had a good chance of passing.

Prob just as well it was a fail and it may have just saved your life.....I would not be happy to ride out with a fellow rider if he made the above statements to me before we left.

May I suggest a CBTA course and a little less blame on others for your actions and FYI they do like you to stick to the road rules during the testing.$20 may save you yet another $170.

No Pre riding the route/trick/backdoor/cheat/easy way for this one little buddy you got to do the work sorry.

[rastuscat]

Yeah, you answered wrong. These instructors all sell courses - they want you to do their $200 course before you sit the test. You should have told him you already did the course in another city (e.g. not with one of his competitors).

Or a $20 course heavily subsidised by ACC.

Haters gonna hate, but that's value for money, right there.

[Mike.Gayner]

Or a $20 course heavily subsidised by ACC.

Haters gonna hate, but that's value for money, right there.

I mentioned that course to a guy who runs CBTA here in Tauranga and he started having a minor stroke about how that whole thing is corrupt and he wasn't given a chance to tender etc etc. Not all CBTA instructors are fully supportive of the ACC courses, and some feel it's cutting their lunch (which it is, and which it should).

[Akzle]

uhhg , gawd help us

no son, gawd help YOU.

[pigman]

Why didn't you end up doing the training first like you had planned out of interest?

100% chance of failing if you speed, not 50%

I should have, I thought I'd have about 70% chance of passing. I was also not aware that I was speeding, I was surprised when the inxructor informed me of this. Anyway I'm doing the "silver" course tomorrow.

[Tazz]

I should have, I thought I'd have about 70% chance of passing. I was also not aware that I was speeding, I was surprised when the inxructor informed me of this. Anyway I'm doing the "silver" course tomorrow.

It's a pain. The same people giving you shit about it would probably also complain when getting ticketed for bring 4km over the limit with the argument that it is difficult to stick to it without fluctuating a bit above and below during day to day riding/driving.

That said, if you were sitting there over 100 for a good length of time, on a license test and didn't notice, the training and focusing on being a bit more aware of what you and your bike are doing can't hurt. Common sense would say next time around you should aim to stick to doing about 5km under for the test

Good luck with the training and next test anyway dude. You'll get there.

[pigman]

It's a pain. The same people giving you shit about it would probably also complain when getting ticketed for bring 4km over the limit with the argument that it is difficult to stick to it without fluctuating a bit above and below during day to day riding/driving.

That said, if you were sitting there over 100 for a good length of time, on a license test and didn't notice, the training and focusing on being a bit more aware of what you and your bike are doing can't hurt. Common sense would say next time around you should aim to stick to doing about 5km under for the test

Good luck with the training and next test anyway dude. You'll get there.

thanks for the support.
I did not go above 100, I got caught out where the speed limit changed from 50 to 100, i sped up about 20m before the 100 sign and did not slow down fast enough when it went from 100 to 50.

[TheDemonLord]

thanks for the support.
I did not go above 100, I got caught out where the speed limit changed from 50 to 100, i sped up about 20m before the 100 sign and did not slow down fast enough when it went from 100 to 50.

So, in other words - your riding and judgement is sloppy.

Learn from this, practice and then re-take the test.

[RGVforme]

no son, gawd help YOU.

Ohhhh nice historical burn

[local]

If you're competent, staying at or below the speed limit should be the most difficult part of the test.

Not knowing to stick to the limits, and not knowing your own speed, is fairly damning.

[rambaldi]

Right or wrong, here's the standard.

If you exceed any limit by more than 10 kmh, fail.

If you exceed any limit by more than 5 kmh for longer than 5 seconds, fail.

If you had done a Ride Forever course, you would have known that.

If you did a decent Ride Forever course... I feel (and maybe this is wrong) that some of the providers have worked out how to make some money off the courses, and are just pushing riders to take more and more courses. The courses aren't necessarily helping the riders as much as they can. Yeah they are only $20/$50 but for the amount of time put in I didn't get enough out.

That is why when I finally have some time I am going to a separate training provider for some 1 on 1 stuff before going for my restricted.