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    So I take none of you read fiction .
    Now we have the latest events which I find disturbing to say the least

    Call me cynical . In fact call me anything you like and i wont sue you .
    But when you look at it LOGICALLY to me something is amiss here.
    Scotts last parole hearing went against him . Next one is in July
    In the interim Ian Wishart whom I previously held in high regard has done a 180 degree back flip from his previous book . What concerns me more about Elementary is not the hasty release of it nor the copy and paste cherry picked statements with Ians own opinion interspersed..
    7 initial chapters of a book devoted to degrading and demoralizing the Watson family must surely have had some outside influence and not entirely the views of the author.
    Then the cynic in me has to ask the obvious question as to why NZ on Air has granted ! million for a doco /drama 16 plus years later.
    One then has to ask the question of why whatever will be portrayed in this Doco /Drama could not simply be contained in a simple news article.
    One really does have to question why 1 million has been granted for the production.
    I am convinced in my mind it is being produced to cover arses . I may be wrong.
    If I am wrong then surely that money would be better spent on a court of appeal or a retrial .
    ! million is a lot of money for one or a few people to express their opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    I am convinced in my mind it is being produced to cover arses
    that has been the case since day one... the question is whos arses?
    cheers DD
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    that has been the case since day one... the question is whos arses?
    One of the arses is the arse of the head detective not only in this case but also the Lisa Blakie case.
    If anyone cares to research it they will find 3 common denominators in both cases

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    Wishart talks fast and writes books some of which I have bought and read - I have resolved not to buy any more due to too much reading for very little information!

    Don't know much about Scott Watson except there seems much circumstantial or "suggested" evidence presented for conviction beyond reasonable doubt!

    The OP of this thread will be pleased that it has been dredged up again because he was convinced that Watson was stitched up!

    Do some of you hear him (Skyryder) calling in the night? - Sounds a bit creepy! But if you do, say hi to Bernie from me!

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    I am a boatie with about 40 years on water experience,in that time I have seen heaps of badly behaved "Scott Watsons" at New Years boatie venues around the country-the Elephant House at Kawau Island, when it was operational, being possibly the worst,but there are/were many others.I followed this case from Day one,in fact I was in the Tutakaka marina when the police report on Olivia was mistakenly released to the public,made interesting reading and I was not surprised it was withdrawn pronto.
    With the experience/knowledge I have I would definitely not found SW guilty had I been a jury member..What was needed was a couple of boatie folk on that jury.
    When the verdict was given I was on holiday in Port Douglas and neighbours were a vet and his detective wife also holidaying.She could not believe the verdict and clearly stated that the police had no case.
    My 2c worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Do some of you hear him (Skyryder) calling in the night? - Sounds a bit creepy! But if you do, say hi to Bernie from me!
    ahh last time I cought up with him he was not well, he may have pulled through and he may not have...
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    Rumour has it he had murdered someone else... cops knew but couldn't prove it. Pinned this on him instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mada View Post
    Rumour has it he had murdered someone else... cops knew but couldn't prove it. Pinned this on him instead.
    Call it a rumour if you wish.
    The police investigated the disappearance of Nancy Frey and concluded Scott Watson was not involved.

    Many theories exist as to how the popular American disappeared from the island about 18 years ago, among them a persistent but apparently baseless one, that her disappearance was linked to the Scott Watson Case.
    Just another red herring in the case against Scott Watson to sway public opinion .
    Cleared of any involvment but the rumour remains in some peoples minds

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    When I was a kid murder was a rare rare thing - nowadays it is way more regular than a Warriors win FFS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    When I was a kid murder was a rare rare thing - nowadays it is way more regular than a Warriors win FFS!
    The problem I have with this case is there is no evidence of a murder.
    It has to be reasonably concluded or assumed however that is the case..
    BUT There is no evidence whatsoever linking Scott Watson whatsoever to the disappearance of Ben and Olivia. In fact there is more evidence from witness statements that prove Scott never even met them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    When I was a kid murder was a rare rare thing - nowadays it is way more regular than a Warriors win FFS!
    To be fair, the numbers are probably the same it is just that with the printing press and the new fangled wireless device you can now read and hear about things in the next village these days. And beyond to the next town!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    To be fair, the numbers are probably the same it is just that with the printing press and the new fangled wireless device you can now read and hear about things in the next village these days. And beyond to the next town!
    The rate leapt to an average of 21 murders per million people annually from 1985 to 1992, but has dropped steadily ever since.

    Last year's rate was 12.1 murders per million people. That was 2010.
    2015 was 10.8 per million population
    The rate should be 0 % per million.
    With the added stress and drugs P in particular I would have assumed it would have been higher but looking at the statistics that appears not to be the case .

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    When I was a kid murder was a rare rare thing - nowadays it is way more regular than a Warriors win FFS!
    Yikes - how did I not consider WW2 Korea and Vietnam - now we have the phony war on terror - murder has always been rife some of it has simply been "legal"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxr View Post
    The rate leapt to an average of 21 murders per million people annually from 1985 to 1992, but has dropped steadily ever since.

    Last year's rate was 12.1 murders per million people. That was 2010.
    2015 was 10.8 per million population
    The rate should be 0 % per million.
    With the added stress and drugs P in particular I would have assumed it would have been higher but looking at the statistics that appears not to be the case .

    I think that violence and intent to do grievous harm are actually higher than before... however with advances in medical technology they are able to save more people, preventing "homicide" and "murder".

    Just look at how many nutbars we have shooting and pulling guns on the cops these days.

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    I have just spent the last 2 hours going through basic information I have available to me without relying on the gospel according to IW nor the facts from KH. I just wanted to take a fresh look at the case in general with no persuasion from anyone. Several things stand out to me. Many witnesses on the night/morning in question compiled an identikit picture of the so far unindentified mystery man. That identikit picture should have immediately eliminated Scott from the investigation.The statements from the 3 witnesses aboard the Niad that picked Ben and Olivia up from Tamarack and dropped the MM and Ben and Olivia to a 2 masted ketch eliminates Scott. The statements from the 2 vessels Blade was moored to that he boarded Blade alone eliminates Scott.The fact 52 witnesses were able to do an identikit picture of the unidentified ketch surely must exist / or did despite Pope dismissing it existed

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