Flag?

**Woodman** · 24th March 2016, 20:46

Very dissapointing. It was probarbly old people that mostly voted for keeping the old flag. Selfish really.

**bogan** · 24th March 2016, 20:52

67% turnout isn't bad either.

Originally Posted by Woodman

Very dissapointing. It was probarbly old people that mostly voted for keeping the old flag. Selfish really.

Give it ten years for a few to shuffle off, then try again.

Given the current prospects of the opposition, it could still be JK at the helm...

**oldrider** · 24th March 2016, 21:01

Originally Posted by Woodman

Very dissapointing. It was probarbly old people that mostly voted for keeping the old flag. Selfish really.

Cheeky cunt - that's one very big (probably inaccurate) assumption! - like I assumed (accurately) that it was a forgone conclusion. - I didn't vote on it!

**AllanB** · 24th March 2016, 21:22

Originally Posted by Woodman

Very dissapointing. It was probarbly old people that mostly voted for keeping the old flag. Selfish really.

Define your idea of 'old people'

51? I wanted that traditional sucker gone. As did a high percentage of the voters. Very narrow margin to retain it.

I predict the 'new' flag will be flown in NZ in many places - rematch in ten years and it will race in. Mind you in 10 years I will really be 'old' .....

**idb** · 24th March 2016, 21:24

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**Murray** · 24th March 2016, 21:34

If the red and blue one was there probably would have won it!!

**Oakie** · 24th March 2016, 21:45

Originally Posted by Blackbird

Errr.... Just over 50% have spoken to retain but over 40% voted for change. Could have been the other way round if there had been a better design

Yes ... if 7% went the other way ...

**Katman** · 24th March 2016, 21:56

Originally Posted by Oakie

Yes ... if 7% went the other way ...

Wow, you really have got this whole voting thing sussed, haven't you?

MD · 24th March 2016, 22:00

Originally Posted by Murray

If the red and blue one was there probably would have won it!!

Yep. I was never keen on a fern flag and when the clearly biased Selection panel narrowed 10,000 submissions down to five variations of identical ferns, my mind was made up to oppose it. If we had to select a fern then the red and blue - a nice nod to the old flag and visually so much better to look at. I saw the two flags flying a while ago and from a distance the blue/black fern one just blends in with the background, had no 'presence' while the red in the Jack stood out proud for miles.

Key shot himself down by not giving us real design choices.

**idb** · 24th March 2016, 23:01

Originally Posted by MD

Yep. I was never keen on a fern flag and when the clearly biased Selection panel narrowed 10,000 submissions down to five variations of identical ferns, my mind was made up to oppose it. If we had to select a fern then the red and blue - a nice nod to the old flag and visually so much better to look at. I saw the two flags flying a while ago and from a distance the blue/black fern one just blends in with the background, had no 'presence' while the red in the Jack stood out proud for miles.

Key shot himself down by not giving us real design choices.

He wrecked it by injecting himself in the conversation.
It became partly political from that point on.

**Voltaire** · 25th March 2016, 07:03

Originally Posted by Woodman

Very dissapointing. It was probarbly old people that mostly voted for keeping the old flag. Selfish really.

Yes us old people and others who don't buy into slick marketing and what some ball kickers and so called media personalities want.

I do wear the Kiwi laser T shirt I got for Xmas though so not a total luddite.

**Voltaire** · 25th March 2016, 07:07

Originally Posted by oldrider

Cheeky cunt - that's one very big (probably inaccurate) assumption! - like I assumed (accurately) that it was a forgone conclusion. - I didn't vote on it!

That's the Zionist's plan to take over the West is people who don't vote.

**Woodman** · 25th March 2016, 07:54

Originally Posted by AllanB

Define your idea of 'old people'

51? I wanted that traditional sucker gone. As did a high percentage of the voters. Very narrow margin to retain it.

I predict the 'new' flag will be flown in NZ in many places - rematch in ten years and it will race in. Mind you in 10 years I will really be 'old' .....

Yep 51 is very old, anything over half a century is ancient. (hopefully the next 18 months or so go very slowly

) Agree that the new current one will be toast in ten years.

Originally Posted by Voltaire

Yes us old people and others who don't buy into slick marketing and what some ball kickers and so called media personalities want.

I do wear the Kiwi laser T shirt I got for Xmas though so not a total luddite.

Would have been great to be on that flag change board donut though aye?

I didn't give a fat rats on which flag we chose until I saw the old and new flying together, and the old(current) one just looked dowdy.