Helen Clark

**willytheekid** · 6th April 2016, 15:59

Originally Posted by oldrider

- but seriously - what useful thing has the United Nations ever actually achieved?

A hell of alot of profit from war!...mostly!

**Delerium** · 6th April 2016, 17:59

Originally Posted by Katman

Just another example of the average kiwi male's inability to cope with the idea of a successful woman.

Lol. whatever. The bitch comitted fraud.

And the UN is a waste of space. THats why she fits in so well.

**Stylo** · 6th April 2016, 18:00

The complete indifference and consequent inaction from the UN with the Rwandan genocide still resonates with me .

I'm interested in what Helen has actually achieved in her time with the UN to date. How many people are happier because of her current role in the UN and will be if she gets the big job ? I haven't heard anything. Never read the headlines 'Thanks to Helen Clark at the UN ....'

Still waiting .....

The world is a scarier place than it's ever been in recent times but I haven't heard for years that the UN has made it better in places where it really matters . In fact it's probably worse . What's the current UN plan with North Korea ?

Or West Africa ? Sudan ? Or Belarus throwing a different coin into the hat here ... The Middle east ?

**pritch** · 6th April 2016, 18:31

Originally Posted by 5ive

So you're wanting them to take a drug test first?

Yeah nah. But it's quite possible some of them might get a mention in the 'Panama Papers' which would cramp their style.

**mada** · 6th April 2016, 18:31

Uncle Helen ruined it for smokers in NZ.... and has killed off the bars and restaurants with her pc'ism

Bring back the tar in the bar

**bogan** · 6th April 2016, 18:34

Originally Posted by mada

Uncle Helen ruined it for smokers in NZ....

Really? I thought it was lung cancer that did that...

**Akzle** · 6th April 2016, 18:45

Originally Posted by bogan

Really? I thought it was lung cancer that did that...

greatest myth ever sold

**Swoop** · 6th April 2016, 19:07

Originally Posted by Grumph

... he just might see NZ politics as a fallback job.

Nah. After fucking shit up here, it has seen "bigger" shit to fuck-up on a global scale, so will not return here. Thankfully.

**mada** · 6th April 2016, 21:10

Originally Posted by Stylo

The complete indifference and consequent inaction from the UN with the Rwandan genocide still resonates with me .

I'm interested in what Helen has actually achieved in her time with the UN to date. How many people are happier because of her current role in the UN and will be if she gets the big job ? I haven't heard anything. Never read the headlines 'Thanks to Helen Clark at the UN ....'

Still waiting .....

The world is a scarier place than it's ever been in recent times but I haven't heard for years that the UN has made it better in places where it really matters . In fact it's probably worse . What's the current UN plan with North Korea ?

Or West Africa ? Sudan ? Or Belarus throwing a different coin into the hat here ... The Middle east ?

In general.... genocide has had a free reign when men have been in charge of the UN and countries....

Maybe a woman's diplomacy and touch will settle em down.

**Woodman** · 7th April 2016, 07:29

Originally Posted by mada

Uncle Helen ruined it for smokers in NZ.... and has killed off the bars and restaurants with her pc'ism

Bring back the tar in the bar

Best thing to happen in bars and restaurants was to get rid of the obnoxious smelly smokers. Don't see how it killed them off, there are more bars and restaurants now than there ever was.

If that was Helens doing, good stuff.

**oldrider** · 7th April 2016, 09:28

Originally Posted by Woodman

Best thing to happen in bars and restaurants was to get rid of the obnoxious smelly smokers. Don't see how it killed them off, there are more bars and restaurants now than there ever was.

If that was Helen's doing, good stuff.

Yes - will give Helen Clark credit for that - vast social improvement - a pleasure to enjoy social gatherings now by comparison!

Criticised the way it was done but then asked self - how else could she have done it? - Big ups for that!

**mada** · 7th April 2016, 19:48

Originally Posted by Stylo

Helen is at best only an outside chance . What has she achieved in the UN that's made the world better ?

Nothing.

The UN has, for years , been toothless and unable to produce the results that it was originally designed to produce.

I bet no-one can remember the last time a UN 'spokesman' made a statement on the media that translated into something that made things happen and people better off.

I can't .

And, as for the ' I've got 4M people in the stadium vouching for me' comment she made, I think she's slightly delusional on that aspect for a start

Eradication of smallpox, polio etc.... there's thousands of tangible goods the UN has done.... as they don't just focus on military interventions. WHO, WTO are all part of the UN....

The Shit arm of the UN = security council which surprise surprise made up of the major war mongers...

**pzkpfw** · 8th April 2016, 08:17

Originally Posted by mada

Eradication of smallpox, polio etc.... there's thousands of tangible goods the UN has done.... as they don't just focus on military interventions. WHO, WTO are all part of the UN....

The Shit arm of the UN = security council which surprise surprise made up of the major war mongers...

... who (ironically) usually then veto each other away from doing anything when they might be able to make a difference.