Low volume vehicle certification

[eldog]

Read this shit. Item 32.
https://vehicle-inspection.nzta.govt...-parking-brake
So, if the abs lamp remains on, or doesn't operate at all, it's a fail essentially.

I did read the the whole VTNZ manual on WOFs etc over ten years ago.

yes items 22 and 32.
Ok you can look at the light.

My thoughts were and I don't want to start an argument, I am no mechanic but I am interested, you have to make sure abs/light doesn't check if it receives a signal from the pickup at the start-car is usually stationary.

Seeing some of the newer tech in cars today the abs would be able to tell if the car was moving and no pickup.

Do you check to make sure the brakes are controlled by the abs? I mean is it general practise to physically check they work rather than rely on the light?
I suppose soon traction control checks will be on the cards as these become more widespread.

you added a bit more to your answer when I came back to it.

Yes more people would remove it, however ABS is being added to vehicle decals and internal signage to cars as well as airbags etc (surely no one removes them after the deploy and pretends it didn't happen-not forgetting to get a second hand replacement steering wheel etc)

just like no one used to wind back the clocks on their cars....or bikes.

[pritch]

Well many hereabout will lack the faith in the WoF system that some seemingly blindly adhere to. Remember the braided brake cable fiasco? Sheer idiocy on the part of the Department - and on the part of the WoF checkers.

The Department suddenly required some obscure standard that nobody had ever heard of. So the checkers wanted to see evidence of a standard. Didn't matter what standard, so long as there was a standard. Of course none of the reputable manufacturers mark their cables with a standard. So suddenly braided cables were virtually illegal.

It later, much later, transpired that the obscure standard required fittings to be swaged. Who knew?

So if you have any part to play in the industry be aware you are still living this down. The whole farce was idiocy of the highest order. No good getting on your high horse because we know exactly how good you are, and it's not pretty.

Anybody who came along since can do a search because it should all be quite comprehensively documented in the KB archives.

[98tls]

Well many hereabout will lack the faith in the WoF system that some seemingly blindly adhere to. Remember the braided brake cable fiasco? Sheer idiocy on the part of the Department - and on the part of the WoF checkers.

The Department suddenly required some obscure standard that nobody had ever heard of. So the checkers wanted to see evidence of a standard. Didn't matter what standard, so long as there was a standard. Of course none of the reputable manufacturers mark their cables with a standard. So suddenly braided cables were virtually illegal.

It later, much later, transpired that the obscure standard required fittings to be swaged. Who knew?

So if you have any part to play in the industry be aware you are still living this down. The whole farce was idiocy of the highest order. No good getting on your high horse because we know exactly how good you are, and it's not pretty.

Anybody who came along since can do a search because it should all be quite comprehensively documented in the KB archives.

Another was the tailight lens thing Was refused a wof then rung up a month later with apologies.

[jellywrestler]

I'm guessing the catch bottle vented on to the brake pads, that's about the only abs a sidecar builder could invent.

no it was well thought out, the Graham Brothers had some techy guy on board and were using car/truck technology, also remember the time when Ash Voices wife would watch from the stand and tell Westicle what line Scrivy was taking, she had a walky talky thingamy and would let Westy know so he could change lines to Block.....

[jellywrestler]

Bullshit. My brakes flat out aren't good enough to lock a wheel.

or you aren't...

[old rig]

no it was well thought out, the Graham Brothers had some techy guy on board and were using car/truck technology, also remember the time when Ash Voices wife would watch from the stand and tell Westicle what line Scrivy was taking, she had a walky talky thingamy and would let Westy know so he could change lines to Block.....

The modern talk is an air bag

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[sidecar bob]

Well many hereabout will lack the faith in the WoF system that some seemingly blindly adhere to. Remember the braided brake cable fiasco? Sheer idiocy on the part of the Department - and on the part of the WoF checkers.

The Department suddenly required some obscure standard that nobody had ever heard of. So the checkers wanted to see evidence of a standard. Didn't matter what standard, so long as there was a standard. Of course none of the reputable manufacturers mark their cables with a standard. So suddenly braided cables were virtually illegal.

It later, much later, transpired that the obscure standard required fittings to be swaged. Who knew?

So if you have any part to play in the industry be aware you are still living this down. The whole farce was idiocy of the highest order. No good getting on your high horse because we know exactly how good you are, and it's not pretty.

Anybody who came along since can do a search because it should all be quite comprehensively documented in the KB archives.

I'm not on a high horse & living fuck all down.
Like the police, all we are hired by the government to do is uphold their policy on any given day.
Just because it is govt policy doesn't mean I agree with it, in fact I vehemently disagree with the 1.5mm minimum tread policy, it should be 3mm, but I am daily forced to wof vehicles with what I consider to be totally rooted tyres.
It's just a fuckin job & a very small part of mine, but it must be done according to current govt policy. Write to your MP if you don't like it.

[sidecar bob]

Westicle what line Scrivy was taking, she had a walky talky thingamy and would let Westy know so he could change lines to Block.....

Yeah, he was a weasel of the highest order.

[admenk]

Assuming you've checked out the UK FJ Owners club site, http://fjclub.co.uk/, they have a load of useful info, newsletters etc as well as parts for sale, which they will post here. Had the ABS FJ back in the UK and it was a trooper, still got my FJ1100 chop over here in NZ so I find the owners club really useful. Went through the whole LVV thing with the chop, and yes, it is a pain, but that's bureaucracy for you! Best wishes with it all.

[AllanB]

Braided Lines. During the original debate I remember seeing a study concluding the bolt together line fittings were stronger than the swagged ones.

I had a set of the bolt banjo type fittings line and a compliance number confirmation from the maker (after I requested it). WOF person would say fail - I'd produce the paperwork, guy would grab another WOF guy, within 5 minutes all WOF inspectors were huddling together reading the paper, pointing at me. Eventually the original guy would stroll over and pass my bike.

Two years back a VINZ inspector tried to fail my bike because it had bar end mirrors - not original. This mate laughed at him when he asked him and stated it's got mirrors - pass it. Ironically he had not even looked sideways at the rowdy Yoshi pipes. Go figure.

[scumdog]

Bullshit. My brakes flat out aren't good enough to lock a wheel.

Limp wrists huh?- not strong enough to get enough pressure to lock the brakes...

[eldog]

I'm not on a high horse & living fuck all down.
Like the police, all we are hired by the government to do is uphold their policy on any given day.
Just because it is govt policy doesn't mean I agree with it, in fact I vehemently disagree with the 1.5mm minimum tread policy, it should be 3mm, but I am daily forced to wof vehicles with what I consider to be totally rooted tyres.
It's just a fuckin job & a very small part of mine, but it must be done according to current govt policy. Write to your MP if you don't like it.

I would agree, seems to be backward that you would see all sorts of crap, and no one seems to want to recognise your experience and alter/look at policy.
you, police/ambos etc would all see cause and effect. Pointless really as there are quite a few who flout even the basic policy.
yeah, 3mm is when I start replacing them esp coming up to winter.

my bike ones will last till summer then change-just checked depth this thread reminded me to check.

[jellywrestler]

Yeah, he was a weasel of the highest order.

i used to fuckeing cringe when this happened as you well know there's not a inch left up scrivys sleeve when braking so when Westy would pull over that side is was dynamite.

[pritch]

Like the police, all we are hired by the government to do is uphold their policy on any given day.

"I was just following orders", didn't work at Nuremburg and it doesn't wash now.

The people who work at the department in charge of all this must have some mechanical knowledge - but they won't be the best mechanics around. Just as the best builders do not become building inspectors, and the lawyers and accountants who work for the Government tend to be those who couldn't get a job anywhere else.

The people who receive suspect pronouncements from on high need to question them. If they just nod along the idiocy continues and and you're all tarred with the same brush. And deservedly so.

This isn't personal, it's just that the industry is not a shining example of how things should be, although the OP will probably be starting to get the idea.

[Ocean1]

I vehemently disagree with the 1.5mm minimum tread policy, it should be 3mm, but I am daily forced to wof vehicles with what I consider to be totally rooted tyres.

Reckon bike tyre manufacturers are onto this, they make the fuckers with about 1.6mm tread to start with.