Make yourself seen

**scumdog** · 11th May 2016, 21:03

When I used to wear my skull mask I noticed people in cars noticed me pretty quickly, even from a distance.

So, if they saw me then why did they not spot me regardless of what I wore

Plurry people. (As Hori would say)

**eldog** · 11th May 2016, 21:04

Its not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.

are we not trying to make it easier for other road users to see us Because they can't open their eyes/mind that that speck in the distance is worth looking at.

and yes we should look at what we are doing to help ourselves

**rastuscat** · 11th May 2016, 21:07

Originally Posted by Katman

Rastus's whole point is bullshit.

Things won't improve until we place more importance on opening our own fucking eyes than on what we're wearing.

Clothing Nazis can suck my dick.

You can wait until everyone opens their eyes. Good luck with that.

I'm owning the solution by making myself more obvious. And I'm not talking hi viz. Positioning and dynamic movement across sight lines. Putting myself in the position of those I want to see me.

Own the problem, and you own the solution.

**nzspokes** · 11th May 2016, 21:10

Originally Posted by Katman

Rastus's whole point is bullshit.

Things won't improve until we place more importance on opening our own fucking eyes than on what we're wearing.

Clothing Nazis can suck my dick.

Fully agree.

Did a hazard Identification exercise on one course that changed how I look at the road ahead.

**eldog** · 11th May 2016, 21:11

Originally Posted by scumdog

When I used to wear my skull mask I noticed people in cars noticed me pretty quickly, even from a distance.

So, if they saw me then why did they not spot me regardless of what I wore

Plurry people. (As Hori would say)

Just your skull mask

**eldog** · 11th May 2016, 21:15

Originally Posted by Katman

Things won't improve until we place more importance on opening our own fucking eyes than on what we're wearing.

Why place more importance on it rather than what were wearing, why not place more importance on both than currently used.

no one is forcing you do anything apart from following the road code, wearing a helmet and having a current rego and WOF.

**Katman** · 11th May 2016, 21:19

Originally Posted by eldog

no on is forcing you do anything apart from following the road code, wearing a helmet and having a current rego and WOF.

Exactly, so the least we could do is open our fucking eyes.

**eldog** · 11th May 2016, 21:25

Originally Posted by Katman

Exactly, so the least we could do is open our fucking eyes.

And learn to identify hazards or potential problems without having to think about it.
and yeah alter our riding to minimise outcomes.

**caseye** · 11th May 2016, 21:30

It IS and always has been basic shit, move across sight lines, wear something that can be seen, move when it's clear to do so, don't fuck about! Look after yourself and look at everyone else and you just might get there and back in one piece.
Same basic messages, just different ways of expressing and implementing, long as it works, what does it matter?
Good to see you haven't changed the delivery KM.

**Motu** · 11th May 2016, 21:33

[QUOTE=rastuscat;1130970283Ride naked[/QUOTE]

Should be part of the riding test - ride across Auckland naked...with no lights. Once you've got that sorted, you'll know your place in the world, and being seen won't be part of your survival kit.

**eldog** · 11th May 2016, 21:36

Originally Posted by caseye

don't fuck about!

bugger

**nzspokes** · 11th May 2016, 21:38

Originally Posted by Motu

Should be part of the riding test - ride across Auckland naked...with no lights.

But when they fail the test some twat will start a thread about it.

**RGVforme** · 11th May 2016, 21:41

Originally Posted by caseye

It IS and always has been basic shit, move across sight lines, wear something that can be seen, move when it's clear to do so, don't fuck about! Look after yourself and look at everyone else and you just might get there and back in one piece.
Same basic messages, just different ways of expressing and implementing, long as it works, what does it matter?
Good to see you haven't changed the delivery KM.

This X10.

Its a combo of things that all work together at the right time that saves your arse.....How many times that highVis good tyres or head check before a lane change has saved your life you will never know because its worked.