Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[oldrider]

Trust the vaccine promoters absolutely? - they are the same people that abused antibiotics and gave us the super-bugs that they are warning us about today!

The theory of vaccination is OK but can you trust them to keep harmful substances out of the mix - everybody does not react the same to everything!

It is your right to question and seek out other opinions if you are not satisfied with what you are being told. .

Trust me I'm a Doctor - yeah right! - Give me (without question) your beloved bike to work on I'm a qualified mechanic - yeah right! (no worries?)

[TheDemonLord]

Trust the vaccine promoters absolutely? - they are the same people that abused antibiotics and gave us the super-bugs that they are warning us about today!

Yeah, Nah.

That one is more the patients fault - they go to a Doc cause they are Sick, they expect the Doc to do something (especially when they have to pay for the visit), The doc feels obliged to do something (so that they will keep coming back) and the patient doesn't take the full course of meds, because by the 3rd day they are feeling fine.

The theory of vaccination is OK but can you trust them to keep harmful substances out of the mix - everybody does not react the same to everything!

Are you implying that some people will have allergic reactions to a Vaccine? If so, this is not something that we will argue against as it is a known fact - Or are you implying a sinister plot to poison everyone? That would require some proof.

It is your right to question and seek out other opinions if you are not satisfied with what you are being told. .

The problem is 2 fold:

1: The people who are not satisfied have demonstrated time and time again that they will never be satisfied with any study/data/research except that which supports their belief.
2: The source that the people who are not satisfied use. Case in Point: Jenny McCarthy being one of the leading spokespeople for the Anti-Vaccination movement. a Person with no Medical or Biology qualification.

Trust me I'm a Doctor - yeah right! - Give me (without question) your beloved bike to work on I'm a qualified mechanic - yeah right! (no worries?)

Sure, once you have done your 5 years of University training and 1 year of internship - I'll let you work on my Bike.

[oldrider]

Situation ethics - our family have trouble with some medications - require to have very good relationship of understanding (and do have) with our doctors.

Someone close has endured a life of almost solitary confinement not because of a "qualified doctor" but because one was incompetent and drunk! (misadventure!)

His not unsubstantial qualifications were irrelevant!

Qualifications are meaningless apart from the fact that they have done the training - it's skill accountability and competence that has value!

Adage: A man shall be remembered for what he has done rather than what he has said! - Trust me I'm a doctor? - you gotta be kidding!

[Oakie]

"Out of the mouths of babes"
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/america...ination-debate

[Katman]

"Out of the mouths of babes"
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/america...ination-debate

Wow, case closed then.




(Are you autistic?)

[Oakie]

Wow, case closed then.

(Are you autistic?)

It's about as compelling as the case for actually.

And no, I'm not autistic myself but I do work at a place supporting a number of autistic adults and know a thing or two on the subject.

(And thanks for the red-rep ... didn't hurt though ... I've had the vaccination for it)

[Katman]

It's about as compelling as the case for actually.

Then clearly you are too fucking stupid to even look into the 'case for'.

And no, I'm not autistic myself but I do work at a place supporting a number of autistic adults and know a thing or two on the subject.

Well anyone that thinks your post adds the slightest value to the discussion is either autistic or a fucking moron.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[Oakie]

Then clearly you are too fucking stupid to even look into the case for.

Nah. I did look with an open mind. It's all been covered ad nauseam here but I'm happy that Dr Wakefields 'findings' were fraudulent.

Well anyone that thinks your post adds the slightest value to the discussion is either autistic or a fucking moron.

That's a broad statement for such a narrow mind!

You should come and spend some time where I work. We'd give you some nice drugs, de-escalate you ... turn you into a happy bunny.

[Drew]

Wish I knew how to embed from my phone.

[Bass]

No-one could ever accuse you of being PC and you do have a way of getting your point across

[nzspokes]

Wish I knew how to embed from my phone.

This is the point. Having been to school with kids that had Polio I have seen what it does. I would suggest the Anti Vax crowd have either never seen it or are so tied up in there own mental and physical addictions they cannot accept they are wrong.

However I accept that in everyday life we come into contact with substances that are carcinogens or can in other ways kill us. From builders with asbestos to motor mechanics etc.

[Katman]

Wish I knew how to embed from my phone.

Did Oakie's 12 year old scientist write that?

[Drew]

Did Oakie's 12 year old scientist write that?

You laughed, don't try and deny it.

[Katman]

This is the point. Having been to school with kids that had Polio I have seen what it does. I would suggest the Anti Vax crowd have either never seen it or are so tied up in there own mental and physical addictions they cannot accept they are wrong.

And see, once again the 'lead me to the vaccine' crowd can't get it through their heads that questioning some vaccines doesn't necessarily make one anti every vaccine.

If question marks are raised over certain vaccines though, the public have the right to be fully informed of them.

[nzspokes]

If question marks are raised over certain vaccines though, the public have the right to be fully informed of them.

That is obvious.