463 state houses vacant due to P contamination.

[Swoop]

now you are being racist.

Fucking awesome!
Another hat to wear and I didn't even know I was one!

[nodrog:Me]

Why don't we just shoot all the criminals? Then the jails would be empty and the homeless people can live there. And for food we could feed them the dead criminals.

[Grumph]

Why don't we just shoot all the criminals? Then the jails would be empty and the homeless people can live there. And for food we could feed them the dead criminals.

Don't have to go that far - has no one ever told you ChCh prison is the biggest supplier of certified organic produce in NZ ?
No joke - they are. Gets up the noses of the market gardeners around here.
Putting your tax dollars to work ?

[Banditbandit]

Like the guy living in the park next to walkway overbridge on takatimu drive, less than 1km from the homeless shelter, that has had numerous government agengies offer him alternative accommodation yet still remains living there?

Or the guy that people were scabbing a tent for on facebook, so he could set up camp in greerton. Even though numerous people had offered him rooms in their houses?

It's a dangerous assumption to make that these people are sane and normal .. many have mental health problems ... I don't know these specific instances so I can't comment ..

Also "homeless shelters" often charge people ... I remember the day I couldn't afford a night in a homeless shelter ... on a freezing night midwinter in Chch ... I slept in the entrance to the Post Office in Cathedral Square ... Now I pay taxes in the top bracket and own my own home mortgage free ... be careful how you judge people ...

[sidecar bob]

Then you're as morally repugnant as the OP.

Piss off, I take extreme offence to that comment, hes a morally repugnant understudy apprentice compared to me.
A number of people posting on this thread that know both of us well can vouch for that.

[Banditbandit]

I'm not questioning that though Drew.

I'm questioning the morality of anyone who could suggest that the homeless don't deserve housing because someone else contaminated the place that they might have otherwise been able to move into.

"You must spread some reputation around ..."

[Banditbandit]

Nowhere does it say that "the world owes you" anything.
If people choose to be how they are...

"Snakes and ladders". 3D.

So a solo mother with three kids (her husband died in a forestry accident) is renting a house. The landlord sells the house and the new owner wants vacant possession ... so he can "do it up" and charge a higher rental ...

She looks for a new place, but can't afford the new levels of rent ...

Instantly homeless .. because of her choices? No .. because some capitalist property speculators wanted to make more money ..

Ignore the mother for a moment ... The children have made no choices at all .. what is our society to do about these children? They will grow up in what is euphemistically called "a vulnerable situation".

These people are victims of our neo-liberal Government who have made the conditions under which they and their wealthy mates make more money - at the expense of the vulnerable ..

[Banditbandit]

Piss off, I take extreme offence to that comment, hes a morally repugnant understudy apprentice compared to me.
A number of people posting on this thread that know both of us well can vouch for that.

Errr .. you are the OP .. ummm .. are you admitting to extreme moral repugnance???

That's disturbing on many levels ...

[sidecar bob]

Errr .. you are the OP .. ummm .. are you admitting to extreme moral repugnance???

That's disturbing on many levels ...

Those that know me know the truth, those that make sweeping derogatory generalisations about someone based on a few posts on the internet that they haven't managed comprehend properly don't really matter.

[5ive]

Ignore the mother for a moment ... The children have made no choices at all .. what is our society to do about these children? They will grow up in what is euphemistically called "a vulnerable situation".

These people are victims of our neo-liberal Government who have made the conditions under which they and their wealthy mates make more money - at the expense of the vulnerable ..

I don't want to make assumptions, but do the children all have the same father?

[Ocean1]

Sure some of the maintenance will be required because of feral arseholes, but more will be due to years of neglect by the government cutting funding.

I wish my home could be so neglected.

My boy's job is repairing HNZ houses, talk about better work stories. Seriously, for the price of a HNZ property and it's associated ongoing maintenance it'd be cheaper just to give them the fucking house and walk away.

Does anyone believe that'd be the end of the handouts?

[sidecar bob]

So a solo mother with three kids (her husband died in a forestry accident) is renting a house. The landlord sells the house and the new owner wants vacant possession ... so he can "do it up" and charge a higher rental ...

She looks for a new place, but can't afford the new levels of rent ...

Instantly homeless .. because of her choices? No .. because some capitalist property speculators wanted to make more money ..

Ignore the mother for a moment ... The children have made no choices at all .. what is our society to do about these children? They will grow up in what is euphemistically called "a vulnerable situation".

These people are victims of our neo-liberal Government who have made the conditions under which they and their wealthy mates make more money - at the expense of the vulnerable ..

The capatalist property speculator as you so eloquently put it, is also unlikely to be a burden to society & likely a high bracket taxpayer, a non beneficiary or inmate without a community services card.
As well as making sure my family are housed & fed, my second priority (& I discussed that with a poster on this thread a couple of weeks ago in person) is to make sure that my wife lives a very comfortable life in the event of my untimely demise.
Failure to plan is not the fault of a capatalist property investor, he's just getting on with his life with the risks & benefits that involves, so he can retire comfortably without being a burden on future taxpayers. But he's a soft target to blame & likely couldn't care less that its all his fault.
If it wasn't for "capitalist property speculators" a lot of people wouldn't have anywhere to live.

[Ocean1]

It's a dangerous assumption to make that these people are sane and normal .. many have mental health problems ...

Like this dude?

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/arti...ectid=11648771

[Ocean1]

These people are victims of our neo-liberal Government who have made the conditions under which they and their wealthy mates make more money - at the expense of the vulnerable ..

That'd be funny if it wasn't so contrived and hackneyed.

[Moi]

So a solo mother with three kids (her husband died in a forestry accident) is renting a house. The landlord sells the house and the new owner wants vacant possession ... so he can "do it up" and charge a higher rental ...

She looks for a new place, but can't afford the new levels of rent ...

Instantly homeless .. because of her choices? No .. because some capitalist property speculators wanted to make more money ..

Ignore the mother for a moment ... The children have made no choices at all .. what is our society to do about these children? They will grow up in what is euphemistically called "a vulnerable situation".

These people are victims of our neo-liberal Government who have made the conditions under which they and their wealthy mates make more money - at the expense of the vulnerable ..

Hear, hear!

The present government appears to have abrogated its social responsibility across many areas, all for the worship of mammon.