The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

**EJK** · 10th June 2016, 17:18

So..... It's now either Trump or Hilary, is it?

**husaberg** · 10th June 2016, 18:01

**yokel** · 11th June 2016, 08:28

What kind of neutered moron would listen The Young Turks?

Dry balls Obama "destroys" Trump!

Good bye president Teleprompter.

**Swoop** · 11th June 2016, 15:46

Originally Posted by EJK

So..... It's now either Trump or Hilary, is it?

Sadly so. "dumb" V's dumber".
This election should be declared "void" due to no intelligent options being available to the voting public... HM The Queen shall reestablish sovereignty over the Colony due to the lack of American intelligence being demonstrated.

**SPman** · 15th June 2016, 00:16

No matter who the American president is, he or she will not stop the juggernaut of American invasions, drone bombings, spying, resource plundering, environmental destruction, economic domination, meddling, forcing it's laws on other sovereign countries and political disruption. America's escalating belligerence is either whitewashed or more often simply not a topic for discussion over there, even in the midst of Presidential campaigns.
So...therefore...basically who gives a fuck!

I don't.

**Katman** · 15th June 2016, 08:13

Originally Posted by SPman

No matter who the American president is, he or she will not stop the juggernaut of American invasions, drone bombings, spying, resource plundering, environmental destruction, economic domination, meddling, forcing it's laws on other sovereign countries and political disruption. America's escalating belligerence is either whitewashed or more often simply not a topic for discussion over there, even in the midst of Presidential campaigns.
So...therefore...basically who gives a fuck!

I don't.

Trouble is, they're taking the rest of us with them.

So yeah, I give a fuck.

**oldrider** · 15th June 2016, 09:22

Originally Posted by SPman

No matter who the American president is, he or she will not stop the juggernaut of American invasions, drone bombings, spying, resource plundering, environmental destruction, economic domination, meddling, forcing it's laws on other sovereign countries and political disruption. America's escalating belligerence is either whitewashed or more often simply not a topic for discussion over there, even in the midst of Presidential campaigns.
So...therefore...basically who gives a fuck!

I don't.

True! - It is tempting not to want to give a fuck when you seem unable to do the slightest thing about it but I do not believe that is actually the real you!

Now that I am retired less fit and able I do try to use the time I have to understand why this is continuing to happen - I.E. which invisible force is the true cause?

This American presidential election is certainly throwing up a lot of clues as to who is really in control and it is certainly not either of the "proffered" candidates!

Originally Posted by Katman

Trouble is, they're taking the rest of us with them.

So yeah, I give a fuck.

The distraction is that the subject polarises us so that we turn on each other and attack each other and so let the culprits do their will unimpeded!

I.E. - A fighting B for the benefit of C - oldest trick in the book but it always works for them!

The advent of the internet has made it easier for them but if we are careful we can use it to effect too!

I note: One leader has repeatedly proclaimed lately that if he doesn't get his own way and comes under threat he will take the world down with him!

I find that statement both revealing and psychopathic and it begs the question - does he have the power to accomplish it? - unfortunately yes he does!

**mashman** · 15th June 2016, 09:24

Originally Posted by Katman

Trouble is, they're taking the rest of us with them.

So yeah, I give a fuck.

+1...............

**EJK** · 15th June 2016, 09:35

Originally Posted by Katman

Trouble is, they're taking the rest of us with them.

So yeah, I give a fuck.

During earlier times of 2016 presidential campaign I'd make jokes (I'm on KiwiBiker after all) like "I want to see Trump become president so I can watch America divide by itself!" or "I want to see a president get assassinated!" but things are turning more serious and it's beyond laughing matter.

Especially after Orlando shooting numb nut Americans are supporting Trump stronger than before. Pretty scary actually.

**oldrider** · 15th June 2016, 17:22

Originally Posted by EJK

During earlier times of 2016 presidential campaign I'd make jokes (I'm on KiwiBiker after all) like "I want to see Trump become president so I can watch America divide by itself!" or "I want to see a president get assassinated!" but things are turning more serious and it's beyond laughing matter.

Especially after Orlando shooting numb nut Americans are supporting Trump stronger than before. Pretty scary actually.

Just how significant is this American presidential candidates grovelling to Israel (AIPAC) as the most important factor of the election?

Link:https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../aipa-m22.html

Even to committing to the escalation of war in the Middle East after the elections? - Read this last paragraph taken from the above article!

[QUOTE] The speeches of all of the presidential candidates make clear that what is being prepared after the November elections is an escalation of war in the Middle East and beyond. [UNQUOTE] ----- Every one of them?

**Oscar** · 15th June 2016, 17:28

Originally Posted by oldrider

;1130978013]Just how significant is this American presidential candidates grovelling to Israel (AIPAC) as the most important factor of the election?

Link:https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../aipa-m22.html

Even to committing to the escalation of war in the Middle East after the elections? - Read this last paragraph taken from the above article!

The speeches of all of the presidential candidates make clear that what is being prepared after the November elections is an escalation of war in the Middle East and beyond. ----- Every one of them?

And like most of your stuff here, that quote is completely unsupported by the article in which it appears, or indeed anything I've heard the candidates say.

Just coz Hillary said:
"Well, my friends, Israel’s security is non-negotiable.”
Does not mean that a war is about to start.

**mashman** · 15th June 2016, 18:04

Originally Posted by Oscar

Does not mean that a war is about to start.

$40 billion aid to Israel is 'largest ever' to any country, says Susan Rice

meanwhile on the other side of the fence... and somewhat massively ironical

Multi-million pound foreign aid grant spent on encouraging terrorism

Just sabre rattling eh.

**oldrider** · 15th June 2016, 19:19

Originally Posted by Oscar

Just coz Hillary said:
"Well, my friends, Israel’s security is non-negotiable.”
Does not mean that a war is about to start.

Well cast your eyes across this lot and see nothing here too! https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/201.../nato-j14.html .

And this lot from dearest peace-nick Hillary: https://uprootedpalestinians.wordpre...literate-them/ (Iran doesn't have a federal reserve bank = war crime?)

**oldrider** · 15th June 2016, 21:52

Originally Posted by Oscar

And like most of your stuff here, that quote is completely unsupported by the article in which it appears, or indeed anything I've heard the candidates say.

Just coz Hillary said:
"Well, my friends, Israel’s security is non-negotiable.”
Does not mean that a war is about to start.

OK so why does Hillary run off at the mouth about Iran? - a suck up to vested US interests that she is their man for the job? - pick me pick me? - I can do it!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-fals...lated_articles - Who is it wants Iran smashed the most? - Bibi Netanyahu and Israel? -