The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Katman]

What say you apply your cogent skills to it and come up with a better conclusion.

One presumes that by "better conclusion" you mean one that agrees with yours?

You only need to look at what's been going on in the Middle East for the last couple of decades to see the Oded Yinon plan in action.

[Oscar]

One presumes that by "better conclusion" you mean one that agrees with yours?

You only need to look at what's been going on in the Middle East for the last couple of decades to see the Oded Yinon plan in action.

Yeah the plan has been going great.
Israel has given up the Sinai and Gaza.
Did I miss some other land that they now occupy?

No, by better conclusion I mean something that you thought of yourself.
Like some iota of proof that Oded Yinon is an architect of govt policy?
That anyone outside the arse end of the internet believes that it is anything more than the ravings of a right wing idiot?

Is it your contention that anything written by any journo in the last 30 years is automatically policy of the govt in the state in which they live?

[Katman]

http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/04/...israel-s-wars/

[bogan]

And yet you steadfastly refuse to familiarize yourself with any subject matter that goes against your institutionalised bigotry.

Like the Oded Yinon plan for example.

Incorrect, I refuse to swallow a bunch of conspiracy theories with little to no reasoning behind what they tell us to think (Like the Oded Yinon plan for example). I mean, the thing I specifically asked for, and was discussing, is still absent from your example, which is prefaced by, 'and yet'. You clearly don't know how to think...

[Oscar]

http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/04/...israel-s-wars/

Jaysus, why do you let the internet think for you?

Ties to the Israeli Foreign Ministry?
Yeah, he used to work there.

Apart from that, what do you have?
The fact that US and Israeli foreign policy is similar?
No surprises there.

The fact that the ME is fractious, warlike and unstable?
Yes, and has been since before Israel existed.

The fact that Yinon predicted the general situation thirty years ago?
Not exactly a hard prediction.

Would Israel ike that states that call for and plot its annihilation be de-stabilized?
No surprises there.

So, how does this rather obvious prediction back up you and the silly old twat's accusation of "institutional bigotry"?

[Katman]

http://www.voltairenet.org/article186019.html

[Katman]

Jaysus, why do you let the internet think for you?

There's a wealth of information out there.

You should probably try looking a little further than the 6 O'clock News.

[bogan]

There's a wealth of information out there.

You should probably try looking a little further than the 6 O'clock News.

I think he refers to your inability to provide rationale for that which you post. Ie, you let the internet think for you; and just choose the bits with the conclusions you want to believe. Which makes your jab about the 6 O'clock news all the more ironic.

[Oscar]

There's a wealth of information out there.

You should probably try looking a little further than the 6 O'clock News.

Saying "..you should fuck off back to six o'clock news" is not a valid argument (even if I did watch what passes for news on TV these days).

It seems to me that you have a very closed mind, and will not actually think for yourelf, just like the Oldtwat.
I note that you didn't try to engage with any of the points that I made, you seem to want us to accept anything you find on the internet as solid fact, but when it is debated, you resort to ad hominems.

[Katman]

It seems to me that you have a very closed mind, and will not actually think for yourelf, just like the Oldtwat.

[oldrider]

Seems the world is over subscribed with Oscars: http://brexitnotracist.com/

[Oscar]

Seems the world is over subscribed with Oscars: http://brexitnotracist.com/

Actually the most interesting thing you've ever posted.

I thought the guy made some interesting points.
He has obviously met you:

This smug, self-righteous attitude has quickly spread to become the only ‘acceptable opinion’ on the streets of London.

[Katman]

He has obviously met you:

This smug, self-righteous attitude has quickly spread to become the only ‘acceptable opinion’ on the streets of London.

Seriously dude, take a fucking look at yourself.

You and bogan are the ones trying to stipulate what you believe should be considered 'acceptable' opinion.

[bogan]

Seriously dude, take a fucking look at yourself.

You and bogan are the ones trying to stipulate what you believe should be considered 'acceptable' opinion.

Simply one which has rationale behind it. Just look at Trumpy and Brexit; democracy fails when people choose what they want to believe, instead of rationally thinking about it. The test to tell between the two is oh so simple... and you and oldy fail it oh so often.

[Oscar]

Seriously dude, take a fucking look at yourself.

You and bogan are the ones trying to stipulate what you believe should be considered 'acceptable' opinion.

Are there no mirrors in your world?