South China Sea Conflict

[Brian d marge]

You should probably stop telling everyone about your "vision" then, it's shit.

One would value an intelligent critic but one somehow doubts it will be from you
If you do, at least make sure u have some idea of what you are talking about ,
It helps

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[Voltaire]

One would value an intelligent critic but one somehow doubts it will be from you
If you do, at least make sure u have some idea of what you are talking about ,
It helps

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I wonder if Japan worries about " payback' for what it did to China in the 30's and 40's?

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhis...de/nanking.htm

[Brian d marge]

I wonder if Japan worries about " payback' for what it did to China in the 30's and 40's?

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhis...de/nanking.htm

in 1992 the crown prince Akihito went over and had a talk with china

a. very rare as in first time that has happened
B the Emperor nor the family do not get involved in politics ( think queen )


me thinks the bloodlines had a chat !

they know whats happening and its usually at our expense ....

[Daffyd]

look again........

Sorry, my bad.

[husaberg]

Sorry, my bad.

I was rather surprised they were on it myself, I also thought the UK would have been on it as well. That said, I doubt China takes much interest on the humanitarian side of the UN though.

I wonder if Japan worries about " payback' for what it did to China in the 30's and 40's?

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhis...de/nanking.htm

Relations between them are still rather frosty still on account of it. Japan didn't even formally apologise until 1972 and even then, it was a pretty weak one at best

[Ocean1]

One would value an intelligent critic but one somehow doubts it will be from you
If you do, at least make sure u have some idea of what you are talking about ,
It helps

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Well I'm not the one who's been running around in circles crying about the sky falling every second tuesday since Bretton Woods.

I'm the one who's been pointing at you and laughing for almost as long.

So let's let the facts demonstrate who knows what, eh, I know it's not your usual méthode, but given that it hasn't worked, ever you might want to consider changing your vision du monde.



Or not. I'll just be over here, quietly sniggering.

[Swoop]

It's getting to the stage now that the Chinese warships are chasing Filipino fishermen from their traditional fishing grounds.

I see this as invasion by stealth.

china don't send warships to do their dirty work. They use their "coast guard" vessels (which are occasionally warships that have reached the end of their useful life and then repainted white/red) to intimidate and ram other vessels.
Also, commercial vessels are expected to do "AS ORDERED" by the military, which involves ramming and sinking - even at the cost of their own vessel. Compensation will obviously be paid to them for doing so.

All of the south china sea, the Mallacan straights AND the Indian Ocean are claimed by china. A great country which has never had blue-water aspirations or abilities previously.


The "death by a thousand cuts" approach is the preferred method of chinese criminal activity here.

I've been telling you lot this for the past five years though, so you should be appreciating the situation...

[Ocean1]

china don't send warships to do their dirty work. They use their "coast guard" vessels (which are occasionally warships that have reached the end of their useful life and then repainted white/red) to intimidate and ram other vessels.
Also, commercial vessels are expected to do "AS ORDERED" by the military, which involves ramming and sinking - even at the cost of their own vessel. Compensation will obviously be paid to them for doing so.

All of the south china sea, the Mallacan straights AND the Indian Ocean are claimed by china. A great country which has never had blue-water aspirations or abilities previously.


The "death by a thousand cuts" approach is the preferred method of chinese criminal activity here.

I've been telling you lot this for the past five years though, so you should be appreciating the situation...

Well they did wallow around a lot of the area in those fucking huge junks, somewhat before Her Majesty's finest ventured into it. The size being a necessary feature for the particular style of trading prevalent in the east, then. Piracy basically. Anything smaller was fair game.

A lot of it is very thin, which caused a lot of the western fleet quite some difficulty. Unlike the locals, which drew a mere couple of feet.

[awa355]

If things did go belly up, it would hit our oil imports pretty damn quickly. Doesn't most of NZ's oil come via Singapore?

[Brian d marge]

The "death by a thousand cuts" approach is the preferred method of chinese criminal activity here.

I've been telling you lot this for the past five years though, so you should be appreciating the situation...

Look into the algorithm from David X Li ..
And indeed the name Li .. follow young David into banks in Canada ...

Boats , Pirates, old school...

The Chinese have been extremely clever in Africa and their long term strategy..

Checkmate Zbiginew IMHO


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[husaberg]

Ruling against China

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/money/marke...ere/ar-BBugoDG

China suffered a major defeat Tuesday morning as an international court rebuked its claims on distant waters that contain the world's busiest shipping lanes and declared some of its expansionary tactics illegal.
A tribunal at the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague, Netherlands, issued the ruling in a dispute between China and the Philippines, and the decision — and the responses of both those countries and others — could mark one of the most significant geopolitical events in years, according to experts

China threatens NZ exports
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...cid=spartanntp
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-...er-steel-probe
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/nation...-to-fail-tests
http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8060...eel-fails-test

China is threatening to slap tariffs on New Zealand dairy, wool and kiwifruit imports if this country investigates allegations of steel dumping, according to a report.

The warning shot from our major export market comes as dairy farmers struggle with low prices and follows substandard Chinese steel forcing a redesign of bridge piles on the Huntly section of Waikato Expressway.

[Brian d marge]

One thing about China...ya get what ya pay for...

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[Big Dog]

Not always true Brian. A fair number of eBay / aliexpress purchases from China never show up.

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[Swoop]

The Chinese have been extremely clever in Africa and their long term strategy..

Yeah. Build a port.
Build some railroads.

Fuck over the locals and also claim rights to the Indian Ocean since they are now sending some commercial traffic through it.

[Voltaire]

Not always true Brian. A fair number of eBay / aliexpress purchases from China never show up.

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I've had a couple of those. Its probably outside the 30 days when you notice.

Watched this one, quite interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8m2o_z9caU

Poor blokes living on some old WW2 wreck to keep it Philippines property.