The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

**Brian d marge** · 29th July 2016, 17:47

Originally Posted by mashman

Nahhhhhhhh, shirley not.

"Wasserman Schultz previously served in the Florida House of Representatives and the Florida Senate, and was campaign co-chair for Hillary Clinton's unsuccessful 2008 run for president."

"On April 5, 2011, Vice President Joe Biden announced that Wasserman Schultz was President Barack Obama's choice to succeed Tim Kaine as the 52nd Chair of the Democratic National Committee."

"On July 22, 2016, Hillary Clinton announced that she had selected Kaine to be her running mate in the 2016 presidential election, and on July 27, 2016, the 2016 Democratic National Convention nominated him as their candidate for vice president."

"Wasserman Schultz agreed to resign her position as chairperson of the Democratic National Committee after the 2016 Democratic National Convention,[3] and was immediately enlisted by Hillary Clinton as honorary chair of her campaign."

Hang on I've just seen a Pokemon

sent for a divine source

**mashman** · 29th July 2016, 18:02

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

Hang on I've just seen a Pokemon

sent for a divine source

**oldrider** · 29th July 2016, 20:39

Federal reserve operates independently from Government or anybody else - they are above the law! (Does Donald understand this yet?)

**mashman** · 29th July 2016, 20:49

Originally Posted by oldrider

Federal reserve operates independently from Government or anybody else - they are above the law! (Does Donald understand this yet?)

Forgive them for they know not what they do?

**oldrider** · 29th July 2016, 22:17

Originally Posted by mashman

Forgive them for they know not what they do?

Debatable - there are those who believe and argue that they do know and that is why they require "specific" candidates for president!

Hillary is perfect and fit for their purpose! - If this is right she should get the job irrespective!

Donald ticks all the boxes and appears to be perfect but is too unpredictable and liable to backfire and go out of control! - could be very untidy! -

**pete376403** · 29th July 2016, 23:27

The Donald doesn't care about the American banking system (they wont lend to him anyway) - these days he gets his funding from Russia.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...really-a-thing

**bogan** · 30th July 2016, 07:47

But that's the point isn't it. He will be piss easy to control, and always has been due to his ineptitude and greed. Has there ever been a candidate less likely to face off against "big banking"? I mean, the sheer stupidity of those who look to him to save them from "the man" is staggering. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy is not having a good year

And it is due to one reason only, uninformed twats who think they should have just as much say as people who know what they are talking about.

**Voltaire** · 30th July 2016, 08:11

Originally Posted by bogan

But that's the point isn't it. He will be piss easy to control, and always has been due to his ineptitude and greed. Has there ever been a candidate less likely to face off against "big banking"? I mean, the sheer stupidity of those who look to him to save them from "the man" is staggering. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy is not having a good year

And it is due to one reason only, uninformed twats who think they should have just as much say as people who know what they are talking about.

There is a lot of stupid about. Ford is looking at closing their engine factories in the UK as why bother when they go to Europe and then 30% of them come back in vehicles. Dagenham voted 61% to leave the EU

I lived in Dagenham for a bit and the Ford factory was huge there, took up one side of the road for miles.

Historically people are stupid, believing in invisible friends, martians, wars that start over nothing,the govt will look after you etc.

**mashman** · 30th July 2016, 09:37

Originally Posted by bogan

But that's the point isn't it. He will be piss easy to control, and always has been due to his ineptitude and greed. Has there ever been a candidate less likely to face off against "big banking"? I mean, the sheer stupidity of those who look to him to save them from "the man" is staggering. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy is not having a good year

And it is due to one reason only, uninformed twats who think they should have just as much say as people who know what they are talking about.

Michael Tellinger v's the banks springs to mind.

@uninformed twats. You mean people who have chosen a particular understanding of a party's summarised goals?

**mashman** · 30th July 2016, 09:46

Originally Posted by oldrider

Debatable - there are those who believe and argue that they do know and that is why they require "specific" candidates for president!

Hillary is perfect and fit for their purpose! - If this is right she should get the job irrespective!

Donald ticks all the boxes and appears to be perfect but is too unpredictable and liable to backfire and go out of control! - could be very untidy! -

So many beliefs and so little time. Some day someone will ignore the sideshow and will play their own game. Can't wait to see what happens when that happens... hell, it may even become contagious and the world will change

Clinton should be in jail. Sanders should be the democratic candidate.

Donald is a businessman. Dangle money and power (or loss of) and he may well sell his countrymen out. On his side, is that it's much easier, more acceptable and almost guaranteed to work to simply ask for forgiveness.

**bogan** · 30th July 2016, 09:57

Originally Posted by mashman

Michael Tellinger v's the banks springs to mind.

@uninformed twats. You mean people who have chosen a particular understanding of a party's summarised goals?

Yeh, less likely than that bloke even.

I mean like the brexit muppets who said they hadn't understood what brexit meant and would have voted to stay if they had. This was the fucking day after the referendum so it's not like they can claim hindsight. But yeh, disillusioned fools who chose to ignore reality are also included.

**ellipsis** · 30th July 2016, 10:07

Originally Posted by bogan

reality

...what is this reality you mention...is it real?...

**mashman** · 30th July 2016, 10:22

Originally Posted by bogan

Yeh, less likely than that bloke even.

I mean like the brexit muppets who said they hadn't understood what brexit meant and would have voted to stay if they had. This was the fucking day after the referendum so it's not like they can claim hindsight. But yeh, disillusioned fools who chose to ignore reality are also included.

Oh I knew what you meant, but you can't stop people getting the wrong end of the stick, even when they listen to exactly the same information, from the same person, all at the same time. They voted on what had been presented. Mind you, they're smart enough to realise that they may have made a mistake.

**oldrider** · 30th July 2016, 10:46

Originally Posted by bogan

Yeh, less likely than that bloke even.

I mean like the brexit muppets who said they hadn't understood what brexit meant and would have voted to stay if they had. This was the fucking day after the referendum so it's not like they can claim hindsight. But yeh, disillusioned fools who chose to ignore reality are also included.

True! - The American presidential election affects the whole world but only Americans get to decide the choice of rabies or malaria!