Gun happy US police

[GooseNZ]

From your link.


You do realise the "black lives matter" are an elite funded political group of shit stirrers.

While a massive political scandal is unfolding, the media will be "white cop shoots a black man, black lives matter blah blah ........

Now lets all be distracted by this side show.
Protests and maybe some riots, it's all good TV watching.






How many blacks are killed by whites?
How many blacks are killed by blacks?
what percentage of the US's population is black?

There is no racism any more, get over it.

Oh yeah, who said? "If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists!"

To answer some of the questions posed...

Here are some interesting U.S. stats from the FBI that help to put things in perspective...

1. “It would take 40 years worth of blacks killed by cops to equal the number of blacks killed by other blacks in one year”

2. “Less than 400 people a year are killed by cops, 61% of them are white. 32% are black”

3. “Black males are 58% of those killed by justifiable self defense…75% of those are by other blacks.”

4. “Blacks are 27% more likely to attacks whites than vice versa…8 times more likely to attack hispanics”

5. “90% of murdered black die at the hands of other blacks.

FYI a Criminologist called Dr Richard Johnson compiled this for the FBI.

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[GooseNZ]

I watched both of the shooting videos that were available. One thing was common between them, the cops were the ones with all the power yet, to me at least, they seemed to be terrified.
You have to ask what kind of selection process they go through to recruit police over there and what kind of training police get to prepare them for the job.
The woman in the first shooting was sitting beside her dying boyfriend with a child in the back seat. She seemed calm, collected and with the presence of mind to keep her voice steady and physical actions under control. The cop on the other hand was borderline hysterical.

The second is beyond belief, two policemen have one guy pinned to the ground and the man being restrained is shot at point blank range multiple times, a cow in an abattoir has more chance.

Its not guns, NZ has a shit load of guns, its a country whose people are gripped and controlled by fear.

I don't watch the news (because it's always depressing and filled with voilence) so I haven't seen the videos.

What I can say is that nobody should be judged by "armchair" warriors who weren't there, don't have all the facts, and who haven't/don't put their lives on the line on a regular basis.

Video will often show part of an incident (and from one angle). It also doesn't show what happened prior and it certainly doesn't give you the officers assessment of the threat which is based on several factors including what the threat is, whether it can be carried out, the necessity to act immediately (or withdraw if it is safe to do so), and what response (from the officer) would be reasonable in the circumstances.

Now...I'm not saying that cops don't make mistakes (they are human). Of course they do. But...apart from the rare "bad apple" they do good work and put their lives on the line everyday.

Not a fan of Traffic cops though...they like giving me speeding tickets. 😆

Just my two cents...

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[Ulsterkiwi]

And what you got was my two cents, I made it clear my observations were based on the video available and how things seemed to me based on that. Of course there is more to it than that, there always is. I do not subscribe to the "all cops are evil bullies" thinking. We form a judgment based on the evidence available, my comments were not made from the perspective of an expert but from what I saw. An officer not in command and two who clearly were but felt it necessary to shoot a man point blank while he lay on the ground. I haven't kept up with these events since but I would be relieved to hear unequivocal evidence that killing these men was unavoidable. Relieved because no country needs pointless killing, the US more than most.


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[Brian d marge]

England is just as bad
https://youtu.be/z55mLS-qWnc


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[Katman]

http://www.newshub.co.nz/world/deaf-...?ref=newshubFB

[TheDemonLord]

http://www.newshub.co.nz/world/deaf-...?ref=newshubFB

But I thought only black people could be shot by the Police....

[scumdog]

http://www.newshub.co.nz/world/deaf-...?ref=newshubFB

That'll learn him for being deaf&dumb.

[Brian d marge]

That'll learn him for being deaf&dumb.and STUPID

95 % of the population...

[Bass]

Trip to the US last year, at a truly delightful place called 3 step in Utah, had a conversation over some bourbon about firearms.
The universal attitude, male and female, was that they wanted the right to carry guns FOR PROTECTION and had no issues with concealed carry either.
These were warm friendly people that I was pleased to socialise with and no hint of the redneck that I could detect.
How does it affect a cop's attitude when pretty much anyone that they interact with may have a concealed handgun?

[Banditbandit]

How does it affect a cop's attitude when pretty much anyone that they interact with may have a concealed handgun?

Yes. Exactly. And you can't blame the armed populace either - pretty much anyone they get into an argument with can be carrying a gun ...

That's why we need to keep OUR country's gun control laws.

[scumdog]

Yes. Exactly. And you can't blame the armed populace either - pretty much anyone they get into an argument with can be carrying a gun ...

That's why we need to keep OUR country's gun control laws.

And not make them any more restrictive

[ellipsis]

...if I sent O'Connor a vid of how much damage I could do with a club and a pointy stick it wouldn't make him any less a disruptive and dangerous man , would it?...

[oldrider]

Gun laws only inconvenience the law abiding - criminals can have any weapon that they choose as long as can pay for it and manage the risk involved!

[caseye]

Gun laws only inconvenience the law abiding - criminals can have any weapon that they choose as long as can pay for it and manage the risk involved!

Give this man a medal for being 100% RIGHT.

What the pollies and the tree hugging do gooders don't seem to understand is , making ,laws so draconian that no one can abide by them STILL doesn't stop the unlawful/criminal from having any firearm/weapon they can imagine as long as they can afford to pay for it, while the other 99% law abiding population get shafted by stupid and unenforceable laws.

[Woodman]

Give this man a medal for being 100% RIGHT.

What the pollies and the tree hugging do gooders don't seem to understand is , making ,laws so draconian that no one can abide by them STILL doesn't stop the unlawful/criminal from having any firearm/weapon they can imagine as long as they can afford to pay for it, while the other 99% law abiding population get shafted by stupid and unenforceable laws.

The us is too far gone to solve its gun problem, they could legislate, have an amnesty or limit supply of guns and ammo, but that will only have the effect of making the criminals better armed, and end up making criminals of the law abiding population who will arm-up to protect themselves from the well armed criminals who don't give a fuck about the law.