one placenta
I think that Drew has again hit the nail on the head...the amount of riders and racers turning up to these days are big compared to our very few...bills get paid easier that way...someone else should take the title of,'dumb cunt', really...or is the scale of the economics too hard to grasp...
Low personal B.M.E.P.
The difference would appear to be that the Euro circuits can guarantee a fully booked day due to the larger population wanting to go there.
With the best will in the world, HD can't approach that level of return so the price must reflect that in order to cover costs.
I don't like it - and will probably never go on HD for a number of reasons - but if you want to live and go on track in or around Auckland, that's what it's going to cost.
How long before it's not viable to run a National at HD ?
Weekend cruiser
Fair enough run a user pays model but watch the numbers of riders willing to pay dwindle, offering a beer at the price of champagne aint going to wash with Kiwis.
Jees even their own track days undercut their customer (clubs) the writing is on the wall plain to see.
L-Plate Rider
I love the 'if you can't afford it, don't race' attitude, especially when it come from folks who probably enjoyed a bit of affordable racing when they were younger. It's the same shit you hear from boomers in Auckland, 'don't live here if you can't afford it'. They've had their fun, set up their own lifestyles, and fuck anybody else who comes along after and wants a little piece of that.
one placenta
...racing has never been affordable, unless you have the passion to do it...and a lot of us old cunts spent the family fortunes to play...pull yer head out of yer arse...are you one of those new age groups now referred to as, melonylemons...
L-Plate Rider
Holy shit, I've never thought of it that way. The money just suddenly appears because you're passionate?Originally Posted by ellipsis
Oh yes, this thread is filled with stories of that. Oh actually it fucking isn't, it's full of stories of $60 trackdays at Pukekohe, and getting drunk for a dollar at the officer's mess at Ohakea.
So we've been driven out of the housing market, getting squeezed out of racing, and now you want to take away my god given right as a melonylemon to bitch about things on the internet? I would go down to the pub to cool off, but I don't have $12 for a beer.
L-Plate Rider
So, all you Rocket Scientists who are screaming about the prices. How about being positive and contributing ideas on how to make racing less expensive. I suspect that Track Hire fees are not negotiable, neither are Paramedic fees,so rule them out.
More competitors will mean lower entry fees, because the hire costs are the same whether you have 50 competitors or 200.
On the other side of the coin, how do we get more Spectators to circuits. Before you say Advertise the meetings, bear in mind that 50 radio advert "slots" over 5 days on 4 Radio Stations is around $2500.
I look forward to Positive Feedback that will assist the clubs to make their events more successful and therefore cheaper for competitors to enter.
L-Plate Rider
Here's part of the problem with Hampton Downs... who's gonna drive 45 minutes out of town and pay $25 to sit on the grass and get a sunburn all day? If some the turnover of Hamptons was going into some facilities for spectators that might help a bit. Instead we get VIP boxes and new garages.
Ta
I mished the track days bit.
L-Plate Rider
What part of Positive Contribution is this.
Here is my positive. Take umbrella's or a shade cloth, 4 poles, 4 guy ropes and 8 pegs and make yourself a sun free / rain free viewing area. Don't forget the hammer for the pegs tho!!!
Mr. Responsible
Me.
Except from kihikihi now so a bit more than 45 minutes.
L-Plate Rider
Get seven volunteers with video cameras set up around the track? Put that shit on youtube? I'll sort editing and post.
Ta
Bike racers in this country are 99% hard up as fuck because they race. That was the same back in the day as it is now.
You're being driven out of fuck all.
Oh, I used to pay $40 for a track day and $100 entry for a race meeting. I still race though, so I'm paying the same as you whinging little cunts who somehow blame me for the prices rising.
There are grand stands going right down the straight from turn one to the new turn two. Wear sunscreen. The garages needed the rooms put on the top. They leaked like fuck and we're useless before they were finished.
Forum whore
Yes mate I know that fact kills my argument.
Best Frenemy you could have!
I think the Nats at HD are already running a loss, hence not having it every year.
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