Where are the police and camera vans?

**roogazza** · 12th October 2016, 06:23

Originally Posted by jasonu

So does keeping your speed under 103kms.

I thought it was 9 km tolerance and 4 kms when more money was required on holidays ?

Well if ya look at the figures, we're on for a record year of deaths.Third in a row with increases !
Humans huh, who woulda thought?
Time to look at the causes of accidents,conditions of roads etc then ??????

**Moise** · 12th October 2016, 08:02

We've already passed the 2013 total. No comments from NZTA or the police about the reasons. Police chases? Tourist drivers?

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**caspernz** · 12th October 2016, 08:33

Fuel prices have been low, driver numbers keep going up and standards seem to keep declining. Can't fix that with just policing...

**Hads** · 12th October 2016, 08:44

Originally Posted by rastuscat

I did that as the OIC of the Intersection Safety Team from 2008 to 2012. The extra funding from NZTA finished in 2012.

So i left.

That could explain then why it is so much worse in Christchurch. On Carmen road nearly every set of lights someone runs the red.

**Swoop** · 12th October 2016, 14:25

Originally Posted by Moise

We've already passed the 2013 total. No comments from NZTA or the police about the reasons. Police chases? Tourist drivers?

You need to have your hearing checked, since you appear to not be listening to the gubbinment propaganda... "Speed kills".

Nothing else.
Just speed.

**awayatc** · 12th October 2016, 18:12

Originally Posted by roogazza

I thought it was 9 km tolerance and 4 kms when more money was required on holidays ?

Well if ya look at the figures, we're on for a record year of deaths.Third in a row with increases !
Humans huh, who woulda thought?
Time to look at the causes of accidents,conditions of roads etc then ??????

Somebody please shoot police policy makers....

**Akzle** · 12th October 2016, 21:12

Originally Posted by awayatc

Somebody please shoot police policy makers....

that would be teh government.

ready when you are cap'

**awayatc** · 12th October 2016, 21:33

Originally Posted by Akzle

that would be teh government.

ready when you are cap'

Wonder how many would fail breathalyzer after lunch...?

Surely no sober being could come up with such anal crap....

**Akzle** · 12th October 2016, 21:44

Originally Posted by awayatc

Wonder how many would fail breathalyzer after lunch...?

Surely no sober being could come up with such anal crap....

all on your tab, too. damn decent of you, citizen.

neither sobriety or intelligence are requisite, by all accounts. the jobs so easy it can be done in your sleep...

**IkieBikie** · 13th October 2016, 21:27

Originally Posted by caspernz

Fuel prices have been low, driver numbers keep going up and standards seem to keep declining. Can't fix that with just policing...

More trucks on the road?

Have a look at the deaths on the road that involve trucks

Two trucks together today

**jonnyk5614** · 13th October 2016, 23:10

Originally Posted by caspernz

Ditto for SH39, albeit just temporary for ski bunny season...

Yeah - that took me by surprise as I wound the 'busa up to 103kph in anticipation of another fun quarterly SH39 run. A camper coming the other way trying to make his headlights look like a Calvin Harris gig. Sure enough, round the next corner - unmarked plod chilling by the road. 3 kms later, orange marked plod coming t'other way.

Thanks camper dude

**Old Steve** · 14th October 2016, 15:28

Originally Posted by roogazza

Well if ya look at the figures, we're on for a record year of deaths. Third in a row with increases !(

Um, what do you mean we're on for a record year? Look at 1973, 843 deaths. That sounds more like a record than a mere 300 odd.

So there have been increases from 2013 to this year, but 2013 was 55 down on 2012, 31 down on 2011, and a whopping 122 down on 2010.

So go back six years instead of only three years and there's not been a rise at all, just a variable decrease. Go back a bit more, 2003 / 461, 1997 / 539, 1991 / 650. Even more of a decrease. So there's been a bit of a rise between 2013 and 2016, but 2015 was lower than any year from 2010 back to 1953.

If you're going to make statements, do some research. I remember the horrendous road tolls when I was in my late teens and 20s. And there were fewer cars, trucks and tourists on the road back then too.

**Scuba_Steve** · 14th October 2016, 16:18

Originally Posted by Old Steve

Um, what do you mean we're on for a record year? Look at 1973, 843 deaths. That sounds more like a record than a mere 300 odd.

So there have been increases from 2013 to this year, but 2013 was 55 down on 2012, 31 down on 2011, and a whopping 122 down on 2010.

So go back six years instead of only three years and there's not been a rise at all, just a variable decrease. Go back a bit more, 2003 / 461, 1997 / 539, 1991 / 650. Even more of a decrease. So there's been a bit of a rise between 2013 and 2016, but 2015 was lower than any year from 2010 back to 1953.

If you're going to make statements, do some research. I remember the horrendous road tolls when I was in my late teens and 20s. And there were fewer cars, trucks and tourists on the road back then too.

You are right, safe vehicle saturation pretty much peaked arround 2013; unless someone comes up with the next big thing in vehicle safety we shouldn't expect to see any significant decrease anytime in the near future

**Akzle** · 14th October 2016, 16:18

Originally Posted by Old Steve

I remember the horrendous road tolls when I was in my late teens and 20s. And there were fewer cars, trucks and tourists on the road back then too.

so basically what you're saying is that the problem is your generation

and that stats are improving as y'all die off.

i couldn't agree more...

**roogazza** · 14th October 2016, 17:38

Originally Posted by Old Steve

Um, what do you mean we're on for a record year? Look at 1973, 843 deaths. That sounds more like a record than a mere 300 odd.

So there have been increases from 2013 to this year, but 2013 was 55 down on 2012, 31 down on 2011, and a whopping 122 down on 2010.

So go back six years instead of only three years and there's not been a rise at all, just a variable decrease. Go back a bit more, 2003 / 461, 1997 / 539, 1991 / 650. Even more of a decrease. So there's been a bit of a rise between 2013 and 2016, but 2015 was lower than any year from 2010 back to 1953.

If you're going to make statements, do some research. I remember the horrendous road tolls when I was in my late teens and 20s. And there were fewer cars, trucks and tourists on the road back then too.

It was a piss take at the powers that be Shirley ! They always crow about reducing the toll.
As you can see,I was only quoting the last few years.