From bad to worse?

[Brian d marge]

Colman
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jona...n_(politician)
Crusher Collins

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Collins

Bill English

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_English

Oh what a choice .,...


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[Akzle]

The fact that 99.999% of those non voters don't avail themselves of any of the many opportunities to stick their own hand up for representation of a different shape themselves tends to support that.

jeeeeeeesus. life in la-la land must be milk and honey (at reasonable prices, sustainably farmed and free of neonicitinoids...)
you serieusly can't see any other alternative that would play out to the same result?

and if, as I, one is completely unhappy with the entire farce, and don't want to be represented. then what?

I'd blame politicians for not being the leaders that...

and i'd blame the old white niggers who look to be lead, doubly if by politicians.

Maybe let's set up a permanent, web based binding referendum platform and see how that works...

you're a fucking wonder. 95% antiquated economic horseshit, then you come out with a jem like this

direct democracy. it's a comin (but still doesn't address many, many fundamental issues that not-old-white-niggers have with the system.)

There has always been those who choose not to change careers when they need to, and as technology moves faster the number of people not actively and continuously learning new shit is increasing. Yes there needs to be a "ministry of job training and placement", but you can only teach so many dogs to new water. At what point does it become the responsibility of the individual to choose something other than multiple redundancy?

at what point will you accept that 87 odd % of jobs are to be mechanised this decade? what do you actually propose that 87% of the population do? since the ather 13% is either un-doable by machines, or looking after the machines... that's a lot of people with a lot of time that somehow needs to make the jewgolds so the economoney...

you never answered why you don't pay for anything, either, just tender someone elses promise...

[bogan]

The rate of change may pick up a bit but certainly in the technical world, a fast rate of change and people having to adapt has been with us for at least 50 years. I don't really want to sound like an old fart (I'm a retired old fart ) but when I started engineering school, it was slide rules, then punch cards taken to the IBM mainframe, then PC's and a whole new world of engineering technology. I moved into something entirely new at 50. The point I'm making is teaching kids how to think and adapt becomes increasingly important. From personal experience, it isn't anywhere as scary as I might have imagined and life was a whole lot more interesting.

And some education institutions are adapting to that, especially the tech side where we're given the knowledge to apply new tools and concepts, rather than rote learn the current ones (tests unfortunately seem to try and combat this though). So many people enjoy and excel in the new fields who wouldn't have been given the opportunity even 30 years ago. And there were still jobless, lazy fuckers 30 years ago, they just didn't have the internet to soap box on all day.

In any case, now is still the time to have a say in politics, policies are voted on at election time (which will remain a landslide national win), but they are formed in times like this.

and if, as I, one is completely unhappy with the entire farce, and don't want to be represented. then what?

We laugh at your tirades of blither about how you think things should be (I'll give you a hint, that is tantamount to asking for representation).

[Moi]

The rate of change may pick up a bit but certainly in the technical world, a fast rate of change and people having to adapt has been with us for at least 50 years. I don't really want to sound like an old fart (I'm a retired old fart ) but when I started engineering school, it was slide rules, then punch cards taken to the IBM mainframe, then PC's and a whole new world of engineering technology. I moved into something entirely new at 50.

The point I'm making is teaching kids how to think and adapt becomes increasingly important.

From personal experience, it isn't anywhere as scary as I might have imagined and life was a whole lot more interesting.

The sentence I've made bold is what is often referred to as "transferable skills"...

and probably the most important transferable skills are literacy and numeracy skills.

[Brian d marge]

Being PM in NZ is pretty polarizing... The number of people with a passionate hatred of the guy is astounding when by all accounts, in person hes a pretty decent chap. Hes resisted the hate politics that seem to be popular right now..

Hes not my natural choice - but to be fair he has provided stability and direction. Hes rised our profile overseas and seems to get on well with other world leaders...

I think hes done the right thing - giving a new guy a chance to get going before an election but we will see. What I would hope is that his opponents dont start throwing in all the hate messages etc. Thats how the trumps of the world get elected..

you seems to forget , about the two week memory loss back in the eighties when he ( or at least he was in the same office ) sold NZ down the river to Andy Krieger? ( spelling, cause im to lazy to check )

Try as people might they just cant find any details about that magic time in the teflon Dons career ....

And the replacement aint much better .....

[Brian d marge]

The sentence I've made bold is what is often referred to as "transferable skills"...

and probably the most important transferable skills are literacy and numeracy skills.

What about self sufficiency skills ?

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[merv]

No idea, but the second one says Haley Westerna and thats def Haley Holt.

I just googled Hayley Holt and got this page
http://happybday.to/Hayley-Holt
as Jason and Brian_de marge likely have no idea who she is?
Regardless All of them look like pretty effective MP's.

The first pic isn't Haley Holt but the other two are.

[R650R]

and getting more so as the internet destroys any trace of truth or rational debate.

That old chestnut of rational debate aye... Ya know your on the internet here......

Back in my day it was the same when we started letting people write books, then some crazy radical started libraries, it was just like the internet but without electricity and porn....
All of a sudden the masses were exposed to other peoples ideas and opinions.... may have caused a revolution or too....

[R650R]

Back to topic.... John Boy resigned after seeing Hillary get smoked.... He wanted to leave with his dignity intact.
Not by losing to a Greens/Maori/Gareth Morgan/colin craig coaliktion.....

Ya see the only people voting these days are hipsters and eco activists. The traditional aprty faithful are in resthomes these days or moved to aussie for better jobs.
The old power monopolies of two partys at the top are crushed, Trumps victory is showing disaffected people their votes matter..... we live in interesting times.....

[Brian d marge]

The first pic isn't Haley Holt but the other two are.

I know who she is , I saw her in that new film ,,





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[husaberg]

The first pic isn't Haley Holt but the other two are.

Yeah, but more intersting, its now quite possible that she might actually win John Keys seat.

[Brian d marge]

That old chestnut of rational debate aye... Ya know your on the internet here......

Back in my day it was the same when we started letting people write books, then some crazy radical started libraries, it was just like the internet but without electricity and porn....
All of a sudden the masses were exposed to other peoples ideas and opinions.... may have caused a revolution or too....

National Geographic , Sept 22 1905 edition
Sadly my copy has seen some action

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[Brian d marge]

Vote Thx1138 , Vote

[HenryDorsetCase]

Sorry I forgot you lot dote on him and his fat arse ho. Every time I look at the Herald he's in the headlines doing or saying some sort of jigaboo crap.

no, my problem is with your blatant and appalling and unacceptable racism.

I dislike Kanye West's music, and in fact the entireity of that celebrity culture and I disengage from it entirely. I dislike his awful music and unenviable lifestyle - I dont care what colour he is.

So we're clear.

[Voltaire]

The rate of change may pick up a bit but certainly in the technical world, a fast rate of change and people having to adapt has been with us for at least 50 years. I don't really want to sound like an old fart (I'm a retired old fart ) but when I started engineering school, it was slide rules, then punch cards taken to the IBM mainframe, then PC's and a whole new world of engineering technology. I moved into something entirely new at 50. The point I'm making is teaching kids how to think and adapt becomes increasingly important. From personal experience, it isn't anywhere as scary as I might have imagined and life was a whole lot more interesting.

I started off as an apprentice Electrician working for the Post Office based in Newmarket, I caught the train into the city to attend meetings the other day and passed the old workshops, now lots of multi story apartments, the CPO where I used to also work is now a train station.

As long as I have my laptop and phone with me I can work from anywhere, today working from home....I wonder if working from home is easing us into just being at home not working.

Still got my ticket so potentially could be that old guy at Bunnings who knows stuff.