The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Brian d marge]

Allen Dulles , ..I used to sit in Mein Komfy chair and listen to his stories of the old country

sent for a divine source

[bogan]

It makes you wonder why the CIA haven't managed to provide any actual proof to back up their allegations.

But I'm sure their word is good enough for bogan though.

'Cos there's no way that the CIA would ever be guilty of fake news. No way.

Right bogan?



http://theantimedia.org/media-ignori...illary-losing/

How could you possibly think that simply their word would be good enough for me? I've said time and time again that allegations/theories/news needs to be backed up with transparent proof and evidence. Let go of the whole distinction between TPTB/MSM and Alt/Conspiracy theories, your fixation on the source makes you sound like a crazy person.

[Katman]

, your fixation on the source makes you sound like a crazy person.

Just like your fixation of labelling anything you don't agree with as a 'Conspiracy Theory'.

[bogan]

Just like your fixation of labelling anything you don't agree with as a 'Conspiracy Theory'.

Which is patently untrue. Many things I have not agreed with have not been named conspiracy theories (even your pentagon fake news from yesterday wasn't); but things like 911, chemtrails, etc are all based on the premise that TPTB are up to something, that there is a conspiracy, so it is only fitting and correct they are labeled as conspiracy theories.

[Katman]

Which is patently untrue.

Actually you're right.

When it's not "conspiracy theory" you're screaming, it's "ANTI-SEMITISM!!!"

[bogan]

Actually you're right.

When it's not "conspiracy theory" you're screaming, it's "ANTI-SEMITISM!!!"

Also patently untrue, the pentagon fake news story was not classified as such either. While anti-semtisim is still all too prevalent, I haven't classified anything that way for months now; when that sort of bigotry gets fuck all traction, for total exposure it's better not to bother trying to correct the bigots.

[Katman]

Also patently untrue, the pentagon fake news story was not classified as such either. While anti-semtisim is still all too prevalent, I haven't classified anything that way for months now; when that sort of bigotry gets fuck all traction, for total exposure it's better not to bother trying to correct the bigots.

And therein lies a perfect example of your pig-headed refusal to expose yourself to 'evidence' that contradicts what you believe.

A while back I posted a 30 second clip of an Israeli MP explaining how they use the term 'anti-Semitic' as a "trick" (her word) - as a means of shutting down discussion.

You steadfastly refused to view it.

[bogan]

And therein lies a perfect example of your pig-headed refusal to expose yourself to 'evidence' that contradicts what you believe.

A while back I posted a 30 second clip of an Israeli MP explaining how they use the term 'anti-Semitic' as a "trick" (her word) - as a means of shutting down discussion.

You steadfastly refused to view it.

So, what tangent are you off on now? You and other posters have already explained that theory, why should I have viewed the video? What exactly do you think the video shows in the way of evidence to change my beliefs?

[Ocean1]

Oh, and buying places at Harvard is fairly routine, it's not a charitable institution. What's more, given that typical course costs run to about US$50.000 pa it sounds positively cheap. I read an interesting article about US tertiary ed institution charges and they way they manage bursaries. I'll see if I can dig it out.

............ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/colle...1ZDlUNCRPbODw1

[Ocean1]

Which is patently untrue. Many things I have not agreed with have not been named conspiracy theories (even your pentagon fake news from yesterday wasn't); but things like 911, chemtrails, etc are all based on the premise that TPTB are up to something, that there is a conspiracy, so it is only fitting and correct they are labeled as conspiracy theories.

Generally speaking the use of "TPTB" is a strong indicator for a persecution complex. And therefore a dead giveaway that the sort of classic circular logic endemic to conspiracy theorists isn't far behind.

[husaberg]

Just like my fixation of labelling anything I don't understand as a 'Conspiracy'.

fixed it for you.

[yokel]

Which is patently untrue. Many things I have not agreed with have not been named conspiracy theories (even your pentagon fake news from yesterday wasn't); but things like 911, chemtrails, etc are all based on the premise that TPTB are up to something, that there is a conspiracy, so it is only fitting and correct they are labeled as conspiracy theories.

The 19 evildoers with box cutters is the most recent instalment of fake news / conspiracy theories.
It's why we're in this mess of lies.

You can add to that list of fake news; campus rapes, hands up don't shoot, Russian hackers,
Trumps sexual assaults and so on.
And then there's the stuff that doesn't get reported.
Eg "bird doging" , Hillary's comments in the debates about accepting the result of the election.

[yokel]

[pritch]

Interesting article about Trump's choice for Education Secretary. She was already interesting because she has been a vocal advocate for public assistance for private education. She is catholic so there's nothing startling there, but it makes her an odd choice to put in charge of education. She obviously doesn't worry too much about fine legal detail, like election funding laws, or millions of dollars in fines for breaching those laws.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.070531cd4c1f

[pritch]

This is almost breathtaking in the incompetence demonstrated, not once but twice. The first guy who fucked up says he had no way of verifying that the call was actually from the FBI. I would hope that anybody involved in a job that required even a modicum of discretion would know how to do that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us...=top-news&_r=0