Auckland traffic

[Voltaire]

which doesn't minimise the fact that it's a stinking shit hole and if your life is worth so liitle you'll donante 3 hours a day to shitting in your own back yard, polluting the fuck out of shit, then you likely suffer some kind of retardation.

Your right, could be spending those 3 hours a day on KB posting witty,insightful comments on life in Auckland and subsistence bikeless living that is the fault of others ....egg.

[swarfie]

Yep, I'm one of those from the Waikato that bitch about Auckland traffic when I'm up there. I lived and worked there for a while years ago and so glad I didn't stay. It seems like the traffic gets incrementally (....haha, mentally, see what I did there) worse every time I go there. My pay rate is VERY little less (cents not dollars) than my compatriots in the big smoke and it takes me 7 minutes on my pushy to get to work

I'll stay in the Tron thanks

You lot are welcome to it

[Akzle]

unfortunately i have a job wheres theres only 2 employed for the sector in new zealand and both positions are based in auckland....i really have no option

you make toilet paper?

[Luckylegs]

....and once you get where youre goin, good luck finding parking, or if in the cbd affording it.

I FRICKIN LOVE MOTORCYCLES!!!

[Mike.Gayner]

Perhaps at the end of a forty year career when my children are old and educated enough that I have the luxury of that choice it will be mine too. Until then I have 6 mouths to feed, 3 to educate and a mortgage to pay.

Of course, if you weren't in Auckland your mortgage would be a lot smaller. And BTW, I know a lot of Aucklanders aren't clued up on the outside world, but we have schools down here too.

[pritch]

I'd rather spend a hour or so stuck in traffic than all day working for peanuts in the provinces.

That can be largely illusory. Usually in Auckland, while the pay may higher, so will be the tax on that, and the rates will be higher. So too are the wages and fixed costs of almost everybody you will have to deal with resulting in their charges being higher. Then there's the interest on an Auckland mortgage.

It's possible to have a similar, or better, lifestyle in the provinces on a lower income. The trick is in working out where the balance is.

[pritch]

Of course, if you weren't in Auckland your mortgage would be a lot smaller. And BTW, I know a lot of Aucklanders aren't clued up on the outside world, but we have schools down here too.

According to his profile he's not in Auckland, he's in the Waikato.

[Voltaire]

That can be largely illusory. Usually in Auckland, while the pay may higher, so will be the tax on that, and the rates will be higher. So too are the wages and fixed costs of almost everybody you will have to deal with resulting in their charges being higher. Then there's the interest on an Auckland mortgage.

It's possible to have a similar, or better, lifestyle in the provinces on a lower income. The trick is in working out where the balance is.

I don't disagree with you for a moment, my Son lives in Rotorua and as an apprentice Electrician he gets paid much the same as the Auckland branch he transferred from.
I'm probably going to bail Auckland in the next 5 years but most likely head overseas for a while.

[Scubbo]

we moved for work, we stayed for the amenities and capital gains -- sell up in 5-10 years, settle anywhere else in NZ and live like a king from those gains auckland is NZ for sale to the world so has huge demand and that won't stop until our government gives away one of our only worth while bargaining chips....

[Big Dog]

Of course, if you weren't in Auckland your mortgage would be a lot smaller. And BTW, I know a lot of Aucklanders aren't clued up on the outside world, but we have schools down here too.

Lol, my mortgage is relatively small, I don't live in Auckland...
It is not the presence of schools so much as funding all the bits and pieces that are required. Much easier to afford when you earn 120% more than similarly qualified jobs in the provinces.

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[Big Dog]

Also I get that I could go halfway and move to the tron or Wellington, but why trade in one city for another? It would take years to pay the costs and is still have to commute through traffic to sit in a concrete and glass nerd farm.
My ideal would be to one day be good enough at my job that I can telecommute more days than not.

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[R650R]

I've always thought Hamilton is a shittier place to drive around in than Auckland. Its just as busy but without the well travelled cosmopiltan international crowd that knows how to merge like a zip and let people into ques etc. Hamilton is just and oversized redneck parking lot.
Lived in akld for over three years, yes the triaffic is shite at time but not all the time. And you leanr where and when to travel and shortcuts.
Been back up there several times in recent years and its gotten busier but its ok.
Auckland is a great place, theres always something interesting happening.

Just looked at my gopro... 4.50pm enetring johmnstone tunnels tollmway-5.40pm cresting Manurewa hill... 65km in 50mins in full rush hour traffic.... what traffic jam. Even on car it wouldnt have taken too much longer as im not that aggresive at lane splitting.

[Swoop]

Little after Christmas it's actually really good, as all the Aucklanders are now clogging up Tauranga, Coromandel etc

Yup. Uni's and schools out and 2/3rds of Auckland fucks off. (1/3 go north, 1/3 go to coro)


IF Auckland council actually wanted to fix the traffic, they would bring in a congestion charge of $20 per day to enter the central city. Coupled with this is moving school hours so they are later in the day (10am - 4pm) and booting Auckland University out of the CBD.
More buses required with smarter routing (we're getting there on this matter) and incentivise cycling with cycle lanes and possibly employers funding employees with XX cents per km to/from work.

With a new idiot running the show, there's fuck all chance of anything happening apart from putting up taxes...

[Akzle]

...biking or motorcycling which would get a bit scary if it started to rain.

oh please. enlighten us

[pritch]

auckland is NZ for sale to the world so has huge demand and that won't stop until our government gives away one of our only worth while bargaining chips....

Part of the problem in and around Auckland is land banking. In addition to immigrants buying a house to live in, or to qualify for the right school zone, foreigners buy a house (or farm) with no intention of using it for anything much except the capital gain.

Australian politicians tend to be more loopy than ours but they have at least one good idea. New immigrants can not buy an existing house in Australia. If they want to own their own house they have to build. That eases the pressure on the existing housing stock at least a little.

That might help here but our government sits on their hands doing nothing much at all.