Stupid World

[mashman]

Not a straight answer in sight. As usual.

Which demonstrates that the "damage" you two continually wibble on about resides right here in Stupid World.

It was there, I promise.

[Brian d marge]

It was there, I promise.

Shhhhh. Don't tell him , he will go looking .,.gawd knows what will happen

sent for a divine source

[mashman]

Shhhhh. Don't tell him , he will go looking .,.gawd knows what will happen

sent for a divine source

... looking ... ... the numbers = facts and say otherwise

[Katman]

"Oh dear, looks like we got it wrong".

One less bludging beneficiary to worry about though, eh Ocean?

[TheDemonLord]

"Oh dear, looks like we got it wrong".

One less bludging beneficiary to worry about though, eh Ocean?

And what do you interpret from that Article?

[Katman]

And what do you interpret from that Article?

That a government agency fucked up and as a direct result of that fuck up one of their clients took their own life.

What do you interpret from it?

[TheDemonLord]

That a government agency fucked up and as a direct result of that fuck up one of their clients took their own life.

What do you interpret from it?

The investigator who had been responsible for the Shoebridge file had said he had referred the file for prosecution after being told to do so by his manager.

He had not wanted to, and tried to change it only days before the death after becoming concerned that her recovery from alcohol and depression could be affected.

It sounds to me - like it wasn't the Agency as a whole - but one shitty Manager.

My point being you are blaming an entire Agency for what appears to be the actions of an individual.

[Katman]

It sounds to me - like it wasn't the Agency as a whole - but one shitty Manager.

My point being you are blaming an entire Agency for what appears to be the actions of an individual.

And you don't think the manager was under any pressure from higher up to pursue the National Party's policy of 'beneficiary bashing'?

Because heaven forbid that they should go after the ones who are really costing the country a fortune.

http://www.victoria.ac.nz/research/e...aud-sentencing

[TheDemonLord]

And you don't think the manager was under any pressure from higher up to pursue the National Party's policy of 'beneficiary bashing'?

It is a possibility, however - it is one that doesn't have any evidence supporting it (such as a Memo, an Email, A witness in a meeting etc.) other than the purely circumstantial.

Because heaven forbid that they should go after the ones who are really costing the country a fortune.

http://www.victoria.ac.nz/research/e...aud-sentencing

I found that interesting - Because I too would judge benefit fraud more harshly than I judge Tax Evasion - and not just for the reasons listed in the article.

[Katman]

it is one that doesn't have any evidence supporting it (such as a Memo, an Email, A witness in a meeting etc.) other than the purely circumstantial.

You know that for a fact, do you?

[TheDemonLord]

You know that for a fact, do you?

Yes Katman.
That was definitely my point Katman.

[pritch]

It is a possibility, however - it is one that doesn't have any evidence supporting it (such as a Memo, an Email, A witness in a meeting etc.) other than the purely circumstantial.

I found that interesting - Because I too would judge benefit fraud more harshly than I judge Tax Evasion - and not just for the reasons listed in the article.

That Manager needs to do some "research", like f'rinstance spend some time on the unemployment benefit. If she isn't already.

The Courts seem to treat benefit fraud more harshly than tax evasion, but it's the tax evaders who are getting away with the big bucks.

[Katman]

Yes Katman.
That was definitely my point Katman.

So you know for a fact that this manager hasn't received any memo, email or instruction from higher up the chain to pursue individuals with greater vigor?

[TheDemonLord]

So you know for a fact that this manager hasn't received any memo, email or instruction from higher up the chain to pursue individuals with greater vigor?

The only thing I know for a fact, is that you are wildly (either through stupidity or deliberately being obtuse) missing the point.

[Katman]

The only thing I know for a fact, is that you are wildly (either through stupidity or deliberately being obtuse) missing the point.

What point would that be then?