Fair cop?

[Ocean1]

"US movie studios accuse NZ internet users of flocking to piracy sites"

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/8821...o-piracy-sites

Now, would that have anything to do with the differences in prices those studios charge these filthy thieving Kiwis?

When US companies stop using Kiwis to subsidise their home markets then they might have a point, until then: Fuckem.

[Akzle]

dude, economoney.
if you don't like the product at the price, don't buy it. no excuse to resort to illegal thievery. :tsktsk:
shame on you.

[Madness]

You think a slightly higher price here with a population of ~4 million would have an effect on prices in a market of ~322 million?

[jasonu]

You think a slightly higher price here with a population of ~4 million would have an effect on prices in a market of ~322 million?

They are not in the business of producing movies so a bunch of cheap cunts can watch them for free.

[puddytat]

Most American films are either schmalzig , or a team America wank fest.
Or porn.

[Madness]

They are not in the business of producing movies so a bunch of thieving black cunts can watch them for free.

Edited for accuracy.

[Mike.Gayner]

I pirate everything I watch. Because it's free and easy, really no other reason than that.

Step 1: Build a list of all the TV shows you want on showrss.info.

Step 2: Plus the generated RSS feed into your torrent software of choice.

Step 3: Enjoy watching your TV shows that are automatically downloaded at the moment of release.

[WristTwister]

Maybe less people would pirate if we had the same Netflix and HBO offerings here in NZ at the same price as the US market.

Not to single out Sky but Sky forces customers to buy a lot of content they never watch when most customers buy sky for 3 things - SoHo, Sport, and Movies.

But we also don't get pursued for illegal downloads of movies or tv shows in NZ, only music. If you can walk into JB Hifi and walk out with a boxset each day and never get stopped by security, many people would keep doing it. It's the "it's only illegal if I can get caught" mentality.

[TheDemonLord]

Maybe less people would pirate if we had the same Netflix and HBO offerings here in NZ at the same price as the US market.

Not to single out Sky but Sky forces customers to buy a lot of content they never watch when most customers buy sky for 3 things - SoHo, Sport, and Movies.

This.

If you put artificial barriers in place to try and increase your profit margin, you can't complain when people subvert those artificial barriers.

[R650R]

until then: Fuckem.

Bet your attitude would be different if some Chinese outfit copied some engineering design of yours and started mass producing it and taking away work and revenue from you?

Just because its easy and 'everyone else is doing it' doesn't make it right. With our own talent here for films singing and acting, film locations we should be moving to really protect digital content.
Judging by reaction I got at work mentioning I paid to watch an iTunes film it seems pirating is rife here...

Awhile ago I had some young Bimbo steal one of my photos and pass it off as her own on her website, F me if she didn't then straight out justify it by saying someone else had already used it and she took it from there.
Had a business opportunity so very politely explained and educated her, then F Me again if she's got another one of mine and playing the dumb card again.

Yeah we've all copied films at times be it VHS DVD or online but don't ever try and justify it as being right in any way, unless its porn as then your only short changing the pimp, the sheilas already gotten what shes going to get out of the deal lol....

[pritch]

Kim Dot Com has said it several times, if the studios released the movie simultaniously world wide for a fair price, piracy would all but disappear.

Chris Dodd's days might be numbered. He is the spokesman for the MPA and a life long bestie of the US Vice Prez, but Joe Biden only has a couple of weeks left in the job.

The US movie and music industries actually tried to ban all future technology a year or two back. They tried to ban cassette tapes way back, and they've been at it ever since. The problem isn't piracy, it's their out of date business model.

Now they are opposed to "fair use"? Dunno why, fair use exists in the US of A and has done for a very long time. We don't have it here. As I understand it, in this country the music industry consider that any copying of music is illegal. You can download an album from iTunes but if you make a copy to play in the car that is technically illegal in NZ. I recenty bought an import vinyl album ex USA and it came with a card containg a code that enabled a free download of the album. In essence they consider you bought the right to play the music, in this country it is considered that you bought a CD or some software. You have no rights to the music.

Looking at the list of the most pirated movies, it's no surprise who is doing the pirating. There's nothing much there I'd want to watch.

[TheDemonLord]

Now they are opposed to "fair use"? Dunno why, fair use exists in the US of A and has done for a very long time. We don't have it here. As I understand it, in this country the music industry consider that any copying of music is illegal. You can download an album from iTunes but if you make a copy to play in the car that is technically illegal in NZ. I recenty bought an import vinyl album ex USA and it came with a card containg a code that enabled a free download of the album. In essence they consider you bought the right to play the music, in this country it is considered that you bought a CD or some software. You have no rights to the music.

Looking at the list of the most pirated movies, it's no surprise who is doing the pirating. There's nothing much there I'd want to watch.

That's not Fair use though....

The biggest issue is relatively few people know what constitutes Fair Use.

[Swoop]

Couple this with the simple fact of "Not available in your country" when you go to subscribe to a service.

If they don't want to provide their product in this country, expect it to be pirated from elsewhere.

[AllanB]

I had a interesting conversation with a bunch of people over xmas about this subject.

Me - I've always been against piracy of music or films - maybe because of my own artistic interests. Don;t really know. I don't mind paying for something good someone has made.

It will only get worst - young people and technology just expect everything to be available free on their devices.

[FJRider]

You think a slightly higher price here with a population of ~4 million would have an effect on prices in a market of ~322 million?

Roughly 1.3% of the US take .. given the higher fees charged here ... I would be happy to "survive" on that amount as my only income.